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THE ASSUMPTION OF MARY: Condemned as Heretical by 2 Popes in the 5th and 6th Centuries
christiantruth.com ^ | William Webster

Posted on 09/27/2014 11:05:41 AM PDT by Gamecock

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To: mlizzy

All we have to do is pray to Jesus. We do not need those other items.


941 posted on 09/29/2014 4:50:01 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: editor-surveyor
>>“David Koresh” was a believer,<<

David Koresh taught that he was the "lamb" of Revelation and would open the seals. That per survivors who are still waiting for his ressurection. He surely didn't believe in the Messiah of scripture.

942 posted on 09/29/2014 4:52:10 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse; mlizzy; metmom; caww; CynicalBear
>> “Many people find Jesus through Mary because...” <<

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Matthew 12:

[46] While he yet talked to the people, behold, his mother and his brethren stood without, desiring to speak with him.
[47] Then one said unto him, Behold, thy mother and thy brethren stand without, desiring to speak with thee.
[48] But he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?
[49] And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!
[50] For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

943 posted on 09/29/2014 4:52:21 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: NKP_Vet

I didn’t think any Catholic could answer that.


944 posted on 09/29/2014 4:52:26 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: mlizzy

She is not needed for salvation. Only Jesus.


945 posted on 09/29/2014 4:52:50 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: ronnietherocket3
It does not say written

The Law was written:

.9 So Moses wrote this law and gave it to the priests, the sons of Levi who carried the ark of the covenant of the Lord, and to all the elders of Israel. 10 Then Moses commanded them, saying, “At the end of every seven years, at the time of the year of remission of debts, at the Feast of Booths, 11 when all Israel comes to appear before the Lord your God at the place which He will choose, you shall read this law in front of all Israel in their hearing. 12 Assemble the people, the men and the women and children and [a]the alien who is in your [b]town, so that they may hear and learn and fear the Lord your God, and be careful to observe all the words of this law.
Deuteronomy 31:9-12
And not only was the law written but the the people are obligated to listen to it and obey it, and in this Word they can find life:
46 he said to them, “Take to your heart all the words with which I am warning you today, which you shall command your sons to observe carefully, even all the words of this law. 47 For it is not an idle word for you; indeed it is your life. And by this word you will prolong your days in the land, which you are about to cross the Jordan to possess.”
Deuteronomy 32:46-47

Cordially,

946 posted on 09/29/2014 4:53:45 PM PDT by Diamond (He has erected a multitude of new offices, and sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people,)
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To: Elsie

I got 777!!!!!!!

Whoo hoo!!!

I never noticed.


947 posted on 09/29/2014 4:55:55 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: editor-surveyor; ronnietherocket3
>>Proof of this fact has been posted here many times.<<

No it hasnt. The only thing that has been proven is conjecture and that those who participate in it don't believe God kept His word to preserve His word for "all generations".

948 posted on 09/29/2014 4:57:05 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: NYer

>> “The problem is that we must get behind the Greek to the Aramaic. Aramaic was the language Jesus and the apostles and all the Jews in Palestine spoke” <<

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That idea has been proven false by the text of the New Testament itself!

Hebrew was the only language they spoke.

Every time that a direct quote in given in the NT, it is explained that it was “in the Hebrew language.”
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949 posted on 09/29/2014 4:57:07 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: NYer; daniel1212; Steelfish; CynicalBear; Syncro; Iscool; boatbums; Elsie

Where are the original Aramaic manuscripts?


950 posted on 09/29/2014 5:00:34 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Elsie
Indredible!

Sometimes hardened souls (those with thick skins would apply) cannot see her, because she is so tender ("full of grace,") they won't let her through.

I clicked "post" instead of preview on this one, so let me make minor changes, if you will.

Sometimes hardened souls (those with thick skins would apply) cannot see Mary for who she is, because she is so tender ("full of grace," sinless), they are not capable of letting her through.

Thick skins are hard to pierce with love.
951 posted on 09/29/2014 5:00:49 PM PDT by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: mlizzy

There’s no such thing as purgatory either.

It’s heaven for the believer, or hell for the unbeliever.


952 posted on 09/29/2014 5:02:31 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ronnietherocket3; MamaB

>> “Rev. 12 has been used frequently on this thread. To date I have yet to see someone explain how it is not Mary.” <<

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Revelation 12 speaks of the constellation Bethula, and the 12 stars of the constellation Ariel beyond it, and the new moon at Bethula’s feet.

This is a sign in the heavens that is being given for believers to watch for.

Mary was never mentioned in the entire Revelation.
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953 posted on 09/29/2014 5:04:31 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Rather than highjack this thread with that nonsense why don’t you start your own thread?


954 posted on 09/29/2014 5:06:27 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: ronnietherocket3
Peter is a man; it would be very odd to give him a feminine name.

That's correct. That is why *Petros* is Peter's name, and *petra* is the rock on which the church is being built, and Paul in 1 Corinthians, clearly identifies *petra* as Jesus Christ. This link takes you to the Greek.

http://biblehub.com/text/1_corinthians/10-4.htm

1 Corinthians 10:1-4 For I do not want you to be unaware, brothers, that our fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, and all ate the same spiritual food, and all drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank from the spiritual Rock that followed them, and the Rock was Christ.

955 posted on 09/29/2014 5:08:35 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: mlizzy
>>full of grace<<

You have been shown that is not in the Greek manuscripts. It was added by Catholics.

956 posted on 09/29/2014 5:09:01 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse; Elsie; Steelfish; caww; CynicalBear

Jesus also received the same criticism from the religious leaders of HIS day.

Jesus, an itinerant street preacher.


957 posted on 09/29/2014 5:09:47 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: CynicalBear

He preserved the word in the ancient scriptures, and in the gospel written by the Cohen Matthew, all in the language of Yehova: Hebrew.

There is also testimony from among many Jewish Rabbis that all of the original Hebrew versions of the entire NT have been preserved in their archives.

Time will tell if they will be released like Matthew was.

Believers don’t have the problem that you do on this.


958 posted on 09/29/2014 5:10:50 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: CynicalBear

The nonsense is what I’m here to refute.


959 posted on 09/29/2014 5:12:36 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ronnietherocket3; MamaB
Rev. 12 has been used frequently on this thread. To date I have yet to see someone explain how it is not Mary.

then you haven't been reading so I'll repeat what I posted earlier.

Revelation 12:15-17 The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with a flood. But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river that the dragon had poured from his mouth. Then the dragon became furious with the woman and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and hold to the testimony of Jesus. And he stood on the sand of the sea.

This says the woman had other offspring.

Catholics say Mary was ever virgin and had no other children.

960 posted on 09/29/2014 5:13:52 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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