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To: boatbums

“The discussion wasn’t about “Romish” or “Popish” now, was it?”

They are related terms to what we are discussing. All three were invented by Protestants.

“And Anglicans NEVER considered themselves as Protestant.”

False. http://anglicansablaze.blogspot.com/2010/05/anglicanism-protestant-or-reformed.html Your statement is so incredibly bizarre I am shocked you - a Protestant - would even make it. Do you know what the Anglican Church in America officially called itself from just after the American Revolution until the 1970s??? “Protestant Episcopal Church”. Gee, where do you think those Anglicans got the idea they were Protestants???

“But, seeing as numerous Popes, parishes, church documents, catechisms and, even, other Roman Catholics DO use the term “Roman Catholic” to identify, designate and differentiate the Latin rite from the Eastern rite and the Orthodox, contending now that they don’t do so freely - as if it is being forced upon them by the bad Protestants - is just so much to do about nothing and comical.”

See you’re already making two errors: 1) the fact that many Catholics - by force of common practice in ENGLISH and by force of ENGLISH law - call the Catholic Church (and not just always the Roman Church within it alone) the “Roman Catholic Church” in no way changes the fact that the term is a Protestant invented term; 2) the fact that Catholics use the term as a convenience with non-Catholics changes nothing about the term’s origins.

“You don’t like the term? Don’t use it.”

I rarely do.

“But you aren’t in any position to tell others they cannot or to take offense when they do.”

Sure I am. I, as a Catholic, have every right and a duty to tell the truth about the Protestant invention of the term.

“Who knows, maybe you can petition Pope Francis to tell everyone what you think they should call themselves?”

I don’t have to. He says “Catholic”. And only uses “Roman Catholic” in regard to non-Catholics although, as a Spanish speaker, the term is largely foreign to him.

“Might as well give it a try, eh?”

Again, there’s no need.


811 posted on 09/24/2014 10:40:46 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
“The discussion wasn’t about “Romish” or “Popish” now, was it?”

They are related terms to what we are discussing. All three were invented by Protestants.

Except that wasn't what we were EVER discussing. You pitched a fit over my use of the term "Roman Catholic" and even after repeated posts with links that showed where and when and why the term came into existence you continued to assert it was WHOLLY "Protestant" originated and used in a derogatory manner. That you can claim with a straight face that Roman Catholics only use the term when they have no choice and don't do so "freely" only furthers the ridiculous nature of your argument and the hysterical claim to perpetual offense.

“And Anglicans NEVER considered themselves as Protestant.”

False. http://anglicansablaze.blogspot.com/2010/05/anglicanism-protestant-or-reformed.html Your statement is so incredibly bizarre I am shocked you - a Protestant - would even make it. Do you know what the Anglican Church in America officially called itself from just after the American Revolution until the 1970s??? “Protestant Episcopal Church”. Gee, where do you think those Anglicans got the idea they were Protestants???

This isn't about what American Episcopals call themselves today but what the English Anglican church did in the sixteenth century and, seeing as Henry VIII wanted nothing to do with the Reformation, Luther or Protestants, I'm shocked you would try to pander THAT incredibly bizarre claim off here and now. Remember, you claimed the ENGLISH term "Roman Catholic" originated strictly as a pejorative BY the Protestants. Roman Catholics today are not "forced" by anyone to use the term but freely choose to do so anyway - even numerous Popes. I prefer to use the term because I know Roman Catholics have the tendency to claim they alone are "Catholic" - a term which originally meant "universal" or "of the whole" and DID at one time apply to the Bride of Christ. The real, TRUE, church is the spiritual house being built by God of which ALL believers are living stones. Rome cannot make such a claim.

You have no such "duty" to assert things that are half truths or false just so you can score imaginary points against Protestants. People do their homework and duplicity comes back to bite the duplicitous in the end.

And, once again, I am not a "Protestant", I am a Christian, saved by the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ. Try to remember that. Your continuous assertions that I am after my repeated corrections shows that you are using the term "Protestant" in a derogatory manner and are guilty of the SAME action you claim is done against you when people say Roman Catholic.

816 posted on 09/24/2014 11:41:26 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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