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To: Jan_Sobieski

Its blatantly simple.

Mary is the Mother of God the same way it is said that God died on the cross for our sins.

Its that simple.

Those who can’t see there being a necessary communication between what is predicated of the humanity of Jesus and in his divinity have not engaged the question.

To say otherwise is to be an unbeliever in the salvation of man by God. Since therefore the humanity of Christ was not fully assumed by God. Consequently, it was not therefore fully saved by God.

There are actually plenty of biblical reasons for calling Mary Queen and Mother, if a person is genuine about actually making a study of it. Many people have. Their research is available online.


69 posted on 09/11/2014 9:47:44 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: Bayard

Mary is the Mother of Christ, not the Mother of God (the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit). God the Father prepared a body for his Son, sending him through Mary. She is blessed. She is the second Eve. However she was a sinner like the rest of us (as her prayer admits).


93 posted on 09/12/2014 7:40:26 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Bayard
The argument that *Mary is the mother of Jesus and Jesus is God therefore Mary is the mother of God*, leads to the following conclusions using the same (for lack of a better term) *logic*:

If Mary is the mother of God and the Father is God, then Mary is the mother of God the Father.

If Mary is the mother of God and the Holy Spirit is God, then Mary is the mother of God the Holy Spirit.

That puts Mary above the Godhead, makes Mary deity, makes her the mother of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, making them created, finite beings with beginning.

It totally messes up all kinds of theology.

Do Catholics EVER think through what they have been spoon fed for their entire lives, cause it sure doesn't look that way with the arguments they use.

I'll stick with agreeing with the Holy Spirit in what He inspired in Scripture: *Mary, the mother of Jesus*.

That way, I KNOW I can't be wrong.

The Holy Spirit is clear in Scripture in calling Mary *the mother of Jesus*.

John 2:1 On the third day there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there.

John 2:3 When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to him, “They have no wine.”

Acts 1:14 All these with one accord were devoting themselves to prayer, together with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and his brothers.

102 posted on 09/12/2014 11:25:35 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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