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To: Bayard
The argument that *Mary is the mother of Jesus and Jesus is God therefore Mary is the mother of God*, leads to the following conclusions using the same (for lack of a better term) *logic*:

If Mary is the mother of God and the Father is God, then Mary is the mother of God the Father.

If Mary is the mother of God and the Holy Spirit is God, then Mary is the mother of God the Holy Spirit.

That puts Mary above the Godhead, makes Mary deity, makes her the mother of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, making them created, finite beings with beginning.

It totally messes up all kinds of theology.

Do Catholics EVER think through what they have been spoon fed for their entire lives, cause it sure doesn't look that way with the arguments they use.

I'll stick with agreeing with the Holy Spirit in what He inspired in Scripture: *Mary, the mother of Jesus*.

That way, I KNOW I can't be wrong.

The Holy Spirit is clear in Scripture in calling Mary *the mother of Jesus*.

John 2:1 On the third day there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there.

John 2:3 When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to him, “They have no wine.”

Acts 1:14 All these with one accord were devoting themselves to prayer, together with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and his brothers.

102 posted on 09/12/2014 11:25:35 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

<< If Mary is the mother of God and the Father is God, then Mary is the mother of God the Father.>>

This premise is false. It stems from a misunderstanding of the Trinity, what is known as Sabellianism.

Jesus is the second person of the Trinity, therefore he is God. He is also the Son of Mary. Therefore Mary is not the mother of the Father, but of the Son. The Son of God pre-existed with the Father, yet from the beginning of time God in his plan of salvation included the birth of the Son of God through Mary.

Since God is outside of time this is no problem.

>>Do Catholics EVER think through what they have been spoon fed for their entire lives, cause it sure doesn’t look that way with the arguments they use.<<<

Do you have a degree in Theology? Have you studied the history of the Bible, the developments of doctrine in the Church?

To be the Mother of Jesus is to be the Mother of God, since it is impossible to separate one person from his nature. Jesus is both Divine and Man. He is not two persons. To say otherwise means that God “adopted” (see. Adoptionism) a human man, and merely used him as like a mask or a puppet.

This is not salvation of mankind, it does not assume the humanity of man into the divine nature. It therefore does not act as a sufficient vessel of expiation.


106 posted on 09/12/2014 1:49:52 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: metmom

You should at the very least thank Catholics for the very scripture you love to quote from.


195 posted on 09/14/2014 1:01:46 AM PDT by antceecee (Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
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