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To: Jan_Sobieski
Poor, sorrowful Mary. She gets dealt such disrespect on Free Republic. But I don't worry too much; Jesus has her back. :)

I'm no orphan.

I've got Mary.
23 posted on 09/11/2014 12:54:48 PM PDT by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: mlizzy

“Poor, sorrowful Mary. “

Mary has no sorrow at all! She is in heaven rejoicing, not weeping.


25 posted on 09/11/2014 1:03:01 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: mlizzy
I'm no orphan. I've got Mary.

You then have no Father since without Mary, you'd be an orphan...

31 posted on 09/11/2014 3:31:25 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: mlizzy

And what "disrespect" was that?

There was no disrespect aimed at her that I could see.

What is plainer to the eye is that particular aspects of beliefs regarding "Mary", are what have possibly suffered this alleged disrespect which you speak of.

Can you see what I am talking about?

One is a person. The other is attitudes of yet other persons, for that first person.

The two are not one and the same thing.

To conflate the two, the person herself, and attitudes of others in regards to her, for being her, is to make her to be what yet others may believe of her, when in more precise truth, she is what she is, a person -- regardless of who thinks what concerning beliefs of some in regards to her.

That leaves it to be that the one known as "Mary" in any way in actual fact has been treated disrespectfully, personally herself be an impossibility; unless she is both a human being, and the thoughts/ideas/theology associated with and in regards to her, all at the same time.

That is, unless there was something I missed where someone openly expressed disrespect for her own person directly, then please feel free to direct me towards that comment, and I will amend my here own comment, provided it be clear that it truly be Mary herself disrespected rather than attitudes towards this "Mary" we are speaking of being not shared or in some manner disagreed with, instead.

I do suggest that to the degree that some form of dual-reality existence for her be unconsciously, or less-than fully consciously accepted or regarded as article of faith itself, and the two differing things (the person herself and beliefs about her) fully conflated as being one-and-the-same, is just about as far as she herself has become idolized if not also otherwise semi-deified --- with the latter sort of things being what is being disagreed with or objected to --- rather than Mary herself being spoken ill of.

41 posted on 09/11/2014 3:58:22 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: mlizzy

Mary is neither poor nor sorrowful. She is the Mother of God. :)


42 posted on 09/11/2014 4:01:37 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: mlizzy

It is not disrespectful to the genuine Mary for me to say I will worship nobody but Jesus. I would imagine the genuine Mary would be deeply offended at the pagan worship directed towards her.


148 posted on 09/13/2014 9:45:22 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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