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To: mlizzy

And what "disrespect" was that?

There was no disrespect aimed at her that I could see.

What is plainer to the eye is that particular aspects of beliefs regarding "Mary", are what have possibly suffered this alleged disrespect which you speak of.

Can you see what I am talking about?

One is a person. The other is attitudes of yet other persons, for that first person.

The two are not one and the same thing.

To conflate the two, the person herself, and attitudes of others in regards to her, for being her, is to make her to be what yet others may believe of her, when in more precise truth, she is what she is, a person -- regardless of who thinks what concerning beliefs of some in regards to her.

That leaves it to be that the one known as "Mary" in any way in actual fact has been treated disrespectfully, personally herself be an impossibility; unless she is both a human being, and the thoughts/ideas/theology associated with and in regards to her, all at the same time.

That is, unless there was something I missed where someone openly expressed disrespect for her own person directly, then please feel free to direct me towards that comment, and I will amend my here own comment, provided it be clear that it truly be Mary herself disrespected rather than attitudes towards this "Mary" we are speaking of being not shared or in some manner disagreed with, instead.

I do suggest that to the degree that some form of dual-reality existence for her be unconsciously, or less-than fully consciously accepted or regarded as article of faith itself, and the two differing things (the person herself and beliefs about her) fully conflated as being one-and-the-same, is just about as far as she herself has become idolized if not also otherwise semi-deified --- with the latter sort of things being what is being disagreed with or objected to --- rather than Mary herself being spoken ill of.

41 posted on 09/11/2014 3:58:22 PM PDT by BlueDragon
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To: BlueDragon
There was no disrespect aimed at her that I could see.
One of the reasons non-Catholic Christians are not loving Mary, and honoring her, for saying "yes," as the Catholics do, is because they'd then be led to be Catholics themselves, and few anti-Catholic-type Christians would ever allow that to happen. So they treat Mary's import with disdain; and that is disrespectful. She's the mother of Jesus; God chose her. That should be good enough for every believer to be forever grateful [to both Him and to her].
58 posted on 09/11/2014 5:23:05 PM PDT by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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