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To: JPX2011; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; CynicalBear; daniel1212; Gamecock; ...
In all reality, protestantism is the existential threat, not Islam. Islam just kills the body. Protestantism kills the spirit.

Congratulations on forfieting the debate.

204 posted on 09/14/2014 5:05:32 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

That was a rather telling statement wasn’t it.


221 posted on 09/14/2014 5:51:50 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: metmom; mom; boatbums; caww; presently no screen name; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; ...
In all reality, protestantism is the existential threat, not Islam. Islam just kills the body.

Congratulations on forfieting the debate.

Indeed, as one again we have an RC acting in conflict with his CCC, though it does teaches that Muslims do worship the same God as Catholics, but V2 (which some RCs selectively may opt out of) clearly teaches:

LUMEN GENTIUM: "..there are many who honor Sacred Scripture, taking it as a norm of belief and a pattern of life, and who show a sincere zeal. They lovingly believe in God the Father Almighty and in Christ, the Son of God and Saviour. (Cf. Jn. 16:13) They are consecrated by baptism, in which they are united with Christ. They also recognize and accept other sacraments within their own Churches or ecclesiastical [Protestant] communities…"


"They also share with us in prayer and other spiritual benefits. Likewise we can say that in some real way they are joined with us in the Holy Spirit, for to them too He gives His gifts and graces whereby He is operative among them with His sanctifying power. Some indeed He has strengthened to the extent of the shedding of their blood." — LUMEN GENTIUM: 16.

• Dominus Iesus: "those who are baptized in these communities are, by Baptism, incorporated in Christ and thus are in a certain communion, albeit imperfect, with the Church.” “All who have been justified by Faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ: they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers by the children of the Catholic Church.” — http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_20000806_dominus-iesus_en.html

And rather than killing the spirit, it is liberalism that overall predominates where Catholicism reigns, in contrast to evangelicals , who most strongly hold to the fundamental distinctive of the Reformation, that of Scripture being the only supreme standard as the wholly inspired word of God, with its transcendent moral laws and literal history. The former status and the latter aspect of which is denied in Rome.

That "protestantism is the existential threat, not Islam" must now compete with other outlandish statements made even recently by RCs. For since just the beginning of the month we have RCs,

Tell us will hear the entire Bible read aloud if they go to Mass every day for three years.

Respond to evidence that the Donation of Constantine was a forgery by charging me with possessing disinformation. Then deny his most obvious denial!

Assert the 7 apocryphal books in the Old Testament were the most cited by Christ in those Gospels.

That for over 1000 years there was no disputing the OT canon.

Continually contend against the CCC teaching that the Lord's return awaits His recognition by "all Israel" in the wake of the full number of the Gentiles have received the Lord.

Treat Protestantism as being one entity, and which has no real answer to the question "Why did God kill people?

Recommend reading the book “When Bad Things Happen to Good People” by Rabbi Kushner in answering this issue.

Assert the KJV has been responsible for the loss of more souls than any other book in history

Deny liberal RCs are Catholic in one post then assert all baptized Catholics remain Catholic regardless.

Classify Mormons as Protestants. Despite what their own church says and even FR.

Assert Christians may be Catholic or protestant, yet Catholics are the only real Christians, and that Mormonism is no different or worse than Protestantism, refusing to acknowledge cited Catholic distinctions (even salvific) it makes btwn those it holds as heretics (separated brethren vs. unbaptized non-Christians). Then (after being exposed) infer we misunderstand him without saying how.

Which is in addition to statements from the past. (like there is and never has been a bit of anti-Protestant bigotry on FR, and they never see threads of Catholics starting an argument with protestants on FR, and wealthy men must end their days in a monastery if they want to be saved. And Prots who do not convert to the Catholic church before death are lost even though they have the Holy Spirit and being part of the body of Christ, which 2 aspects are even denied later. And that most protestants are completely illiterate in what the Bible teaches, and Protestantism is absolutely alien to Christianity and should be faithful Prots should be eradicated from the face of the earth. Etc.)

Voting results are not in yet.


223 posted on 09/14/2014 6:45:20 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: metmom; Gamecock; JPX2011
In all reality, protestantism is the existential threat, not Islam. Islam just kills the body. Protestantism kills the spirit.

Try reversing the statement, then matching against their catechism, to get all of the implications:

In all reality, Islam is not an existential threat. Islam does not kill the spirit.

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

236 posted on 09/14/2014 8:28:02 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: metmom
Congratulations on forfieting the debate.

It takes NAZI to to that...

328 posted on 09/14/2014 7:00:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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