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To: CynicalBear
"My Queen, My Mother, I offer myself entirely to thee. And to show my devotion to thee, I offer thee this day, my eyes, my ears, my mouth, my heart, my whole being without reserve. Wherefore, good Mother, as I am thine own, keep me, guard me as thy property and possession. Amen."

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CynicalBear, that just sounds like a flowery, poetic expression from a child to its mother.

Do this: Picture the "talker" being a child talking to his/her "mommy".

It fits perfectly, and does NOT constitute worship, just love.

Any kid who loves his mother could say those same exact words, and not be worshiping his mother as "God".

Catholics believe Jesus gave His Mother Mary to all of us from His cross (represented by that other disciple who Jesus loved - just as He loves all of us too).

Try this also: Picture a gentleman saying those exact same words to his wife, just replacing the word "mother" with the word "wife".    It fits perfectly, and there is absolutely no "God worship" there whatsoever!

(Perhaps one has to be able to appreciate poetry in order to be able to appreciate such loving expressions.)

My second point is a question and a request:

1. Whose web site is that?

2. Please show me an authoritative source (such as the "Catechism of the Catholic Church") which declares that that person's poetic love song you found on that web site is an official teaching of the Catholic Church.

1,173 posted on 09/23/2014 8:15:44 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Our hearts are restless, Lord, until they rest in Thee." - St. Augustine)
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To: Heart-Rest

Then why did that man on tv pray to Mary for protection? It was not spoken like a child who loves his mother. Why didn’t he pray to Jesus? That speech does not sound like anything a child would say. It sounds like a prayer to Mary. I have never heard a child say anythng like that and I am 70. There is evidence or praying to Mary all over the place. All people have to do is be observant.


1,177 posted on 09/23/2014 9:06:01 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: Heart-Rest; CynicalBear
CynicalBear, that just sounds like a flowery, poetic expression from a child to its mother.

And on what planet to do live where children talk like that to their mothers?

I never talked to my mom like that. Talked back to her (and paid dearly for it to boot) but NEVER talked to her like that.

1,194 posted on 09/24/2014 4:04:37 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Heart-Rest; caww; metmom
>>CynicalBear, that just sounds like a flowery, poetic expression from a child to its mother.<<

This getting really sad. Let's go to Catholic Online at http://catholic.org/prayers/prayer.php?s=31 and see what we find there.

Act of Oblation to the Blessed Virgin Mary

My Queen! my Mother! I give thee all myself, and, to show my devotion to thee, I consecrate to thee my eyes, my ears, my mouth, my heart, my entire self. Wherefore, O loving Mother, as I am thine own, keep me, defend me, as thy property and possession. Amen.

Well, well, well. There we have it again. Dedicating oneself to Mary claiming they are her property. Not God's property nor dedicated to Him, but her property.

Here's another

Act of Consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary

O Mary, Virgin most powerful and Mother of mercy, Queen of Heaven and Refuge of sinners, we consecrate ourselves to thine Immaculate Heart. We consecrate to thee our very being and our whole life; all that we have, all that we love, all that we are. To thee we give our bodies, our hearts and our souls; to thee we give our homes, our families, our country. We desire that all that is in us and around us may belong to thee, and may share in the benefits of thy motherly benediction. ` And that this act of consecration may be truly efficacious and lasting, we renew this day at thy feet the promises of our Baptism and our first Holy Communion. We pledge ourselves to profess courageously and at all times the truths of our holy Faith, and to live as befits Catholics who are duly submissive to all the directions of the Pope and the Bishops in communion with him. We pledge ourselves to keep the commandments of God and His Church, in particular to keep holy the Lord's Day. We likewise pledge ourselves to make the consoling practices of the Christian religion, and above all, Holy Communion, an integral part of our lives, in so far as we shall be able so to do. Finally, we promise thee, O glorious Mother of God and loving Mother of men, to devote ourselves whole-heartedly to the service of thy blessed cult, in order to hasten and assure, through the sovereignty of thine Immaculate Heart, the coming of the kingdom of the Sacred Heart of thine adorable Son, in our own hearts and in those of all men, in our country and in all the world, as in heaven, so on earth. Amen.

Giving everything to Mary? Not to God. Not to Jesus. Giving everything to Mary! Devoting themselves wholeheartedly to her cult!

"Loving expressions" indeed. Bodies, hearts, souls, homes, families, and country all given to Mary. That's love all right.

It's obvious that Catholics know it's wrong or they wouldn't keep denying that they pray to Mary and their so called saints. Yet by the evidence, prayers and and practices we can see that they do. They give attributes and position to Mary that totally contradicts scripture. They can deny all they want but the evidence is clear.

1,199 posted on 09/24/2014 6:01:35 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decideIf I need to locate a verse, do I ask thed to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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