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To: Heart-Rest
Don't give us that nonsense about not praying to Mary and the so called saints. It's easy enough to look up.

For instance here: [http://www.marypages.com/PrayerstoMary.htm]

Prayers to the Blessed Virgin Mary

"My Queen, My Mother, I offer myself entirely to thee. And to show my devotion to thee, I offer thee this day, my eyes, my ears, my mouth, my heart, my whole being without reserve. Wherefore, good Mother, as I am thine own, keep me, guard me as thy property and possession. Amen."

Just asking them to pray for you ey? How stupid do Catholics think people are?

1,163 posted on 09/23/2014 7:36:45 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decideIf I need to locate a verse, do I ask thed to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

I saw a man on tv praying to Mary for protection. How can people lie about that because it was not the first time?


1,166 posted on 09/23/2014 7:44:14 PM PDT by MamaB
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To: CynicalBear
"My Queen, My Mother, I offer myself entirely to thee. And to show my devotion to thee, I offer thee this day, my eyes, my ears, my mouth, my heart, my whole being without reserve. Wherefore, good Mother, as I am thine own, keep me, guard me as thy property and possession. Amen."

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CynicalBear, that just sounds like a flowery, poetic expression from a child to its mother.

Do this: Picture the "talker" being a child talking to his/her "mommy".

It fits perfectly, and does NOT constitute worship, just love.

Any kid who loves his mother could say those same exact words, and not be worshiping his mother as "God".

Catholics believe Jesus gave His Mother Mary to all of us from His cross (represented by that other disciple who Jesus loved - just as He loves all of us too).

Try this also: Picture a gentleman saying those exact same words to his wife, just replacing the word "mother" with the word "wife".    It fits perfectly, and there is absolutely no "God worship" there whatsoever!

(Perhaps one has to be able to appreciate poetry in order to be able to appreciate such loving expressions.)

My second point is a question and a request:

1. Whose web site is that?

2. Please show me an authoritative source (such as the "Catechism of the Catholic Church") which declares that that person's poetic love song you found on that web site is an official teaching of the Catholic Church.

1,173 posted on 09/23/2014 8:15:44 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Our hearts are restless, Lord, until they rest in Thee." - St. Augustine)
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To: CynicalBear

“How stupid do Catholics think people are?”

ROTFLMAO!

You do make jokes easy.


1,184 posted on 09/23/2014 9:46:49 PM PDT by narses ( For the Son of man shall come ... and then will he render to every man according to his works.)
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To: CynicalBear
Just asking them to pray for you ey? How stupid do Catholics think people are?

It's a verbal shortcut; all Catholics understand they are praying for Mary's intercession. It's non-Catholic Christians, the ones who refuse the importance of Mary in the Jesus story, who keep parroting this same old line. If you want to see who Catholics worship, go to a Mass (a daily one is good to observe; they are usually 30 minutes in length, not an hour). And then go again if you want to keep learning...... If you're going to slam the Church, do so in a way that is based on fact, not fiction. Lest you look "stupid" for your diarrhetic commentary.
1,191 posted on 09/24/2014 3:54:36 AM PDT by mlizzy ("If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic Adoration, abortion would be ended." --Mother Teresa)
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To: CynicalBear
Good on ya!

I remember this prayer: Hail, Mary - Full of Grace, the LORD is with THEE...

(Maybe Mary is in heaven saying, "Hey, you talkin' to ME??!)"

I said the "prayer" many times as part of my "JUST Punishment!!" (LOL)

I also said a "'GOOD' Act of Contrition" -- and here's a funny story:

For a long time I was saying: " Oh my God, I am hardly sorry for having offended Thee..." I misunderstood the word "heartily" for a good long time - probably until I was in the 8th or 9th grade. (What? SIX YEARS of a "BAD" Acts of Contrition...?)

NOW - I know 1 John 1:9

What a relief !!

1,229 posted on 09/24/2014 2:26:11 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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