Pope Francis, "If Mary is not your Mother, you are an orphan!"

Charisma News ^ | 9/5/2014 | Jennifer LeClaire

[Jan_Sobieski]

Pope Francis has been a breath of fresh air for many Catholics seeking greater liberty and a growing concern for conservative Christians who take issue with his comments about homosexuality and other cultural issues.

But the pontiff's latest statement is sparking an uproar from believers around the world. Pope Francis sent a tweet Tuesday that absolutely violates the truth of Scripture:

"The Christian who does not feel that the Virgin Mary is his or her mother is an orphan," Pope Francis tweeted.

As of the time I wrote this column it had been retweeted about 4,000 times and many of the responses were in appropriately unkind. It's not appropriate to attack the pope for his beliefs. It's more appropriate to share the truth...

[xzins]

A troll might....and he might not share his denomination because his understanding might be limited.

What denomination are you?

[xzins]

arguments...haven't changed

What she means is that you really are a one trick pony. Pagan this, pagan that, and pretty empty after that. A troll might come across just that way.

[caww]

.....”Laws for thee but not for me? Another example of hypocrisy”.....

It can be no other way for catholicism..... for ‘their’ re-constructed laws stand on their traditions...if they truly abided by the law their traditions would not stand at all. So they loose either way.

God gave us the law is to drive us to Christ.....we know we don’t measure up nor can we... for God also said that if you break any one of the least of his commands you are guilty of them all....so there’s nothing left for any to stand on...ALL become guilty before God.....

But catholics swing around that....by their very ‘traditional’ teachings that you have to jump through their hoops, intertwined and re-constructed with just enough Christian verbage to make it “sound” Christian enough to bait and switch those who are lost or unfamiliar with what God has to say about ‘His way’ of salvation ...and that is, with certainty, through His Son Jesus alone...there is no “other..nor add-on’s”.....which all false religions and cults promote BTW.

Have you ever noticed that with too many add-on’s on your computer eventually it will slow it down....or you get tangled up with what exactly which add-on does what you need? ......It’s the same with catholicism........layers and layers of add-ons.

Thus they nullify the word of God unto Salvation, (make non effective ...(mark 7:13), by their traditions that they have handed down....And so they ‘cancel’ the word of God in order to hand down their traditions.

Jesus declared to men of such......”Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees,).... hypocrites! ....for you shut up the kingdom of Heaven against men!!!!.... for you neither go in yourselves,.... nor do you allow those who are entering to go in.”....Matt 23:13

[dsc]

Has it never occurred to you that a prohibition on calling a lie what it is serves only to advantage liars?

This is a very bad rule.

[roamer_1]

Yes, it does. The primary issue is a celebration of Jesus' death, burial, and resurrection at the same TIME. Since those events happened at Passover, that is why it is called Pascha.

It's about corrupting the original image - Why do you think YHWH established His Holy Days? They have purpose. ALL of the moedim point exclusively to Yeshua.

Instead, you have Ishtar's day being kept and called 'passover'... Complete with egg-laying rabbits... And on Ishtar's day, custom was to kill the boar that killed Tammuz and eat it - there's your ham dinner. Killing a PIG for Yeshua - C'mon.

And the 40 days of 'weeping for Tammuz' turned into 'lent'. And sunrise service goes right back to Babylon (Yeshua didn't rise at sunrise. The stone was already rolled away).

And don't even ask me where 'easter eggs' come from, and why they were traditionally blood red - You really don't want to know.

ALL of these are ABOMINATIONS to YHWH, that he specifically abhors. Why memorialize them instead of the memorial that YHWH provided from the beginning? Tradition is why. You bow to Rome in this, not YHWH.

[CynicalBear]

>>In the meantime, why are you trolling a Christian site for an anonymous group that you refuse to divulge?<<

Anonymous? Oh no. I am part of the assembly of believers, the body of Christ.

>>the time and reason for a sunrise service...<<

I know the pagan sun worshipers face the sun. I know that Simeramis set the first Sunday after the spring equinox. I know she commanded a 40 day mourning period for her son Tamuz. I know she commanded the consumption of preserved pork because a wild pig killed him.

[FourtySeven]

Hey guys,

I’ve been thinking about this whole “kissing desiccated skulls” thing, and I’m not sure I’ve ever even heard of that happening. (At least not as lips touching the bone). I’ve looked in this thread for pics, and I haven’t seen any. It seems some posts have been deleted so if such pictures were deleted if you could just point me to such links (in FReepmail if you prefer) I’d be grateful.

I’d really like to see such pictures before commenting further (I might not even then really)

Thanks.

[caww]

[trisham]

Considering the number of threads we see posted about Catholicism when clicking on the Religion Forum, many of which are caucus with the caucus designation enforced by the mods, I hardly think FR is *purging Catholics from its ranks*.

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Maybe it should.

[caww]

....”Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will,....(nor of Roman Catholicism)...but of God.”.....

Exactly...

[CynicalBear]

>>What denomination are you?<<

The universal ekklesia, the whole body of Christians scattered throughout the earth and the assembly of faithful Christians already dead and received into heaven.

[roamer_1]

I know the pagan sun worshipers face the sun. I know that Simeramis set the first Sunday after the spring equinox. I know she commanded a 40 day mourning period for her son Tamuz. I know she commanded the consumption of preserved pork because a wild pig killed him.

Yabut, yabut... that is all just a coincidence... !NOT!

[CynicalBear]

>>Pagan this, pagan that, and pretty empty after that.<<

That's been the subject of the thread. Perhaps you could show from scripture where all those practices are taught and sanctioned by the apostles. Trying to make it personal isn't working well for you.

[caww]

I do believe fully that most Priests love the idea of people bowing before them like this...it's powerful and has many perks as well....I would never want any Priests hands near my mouth or touching anything I would put in it.......given the priests history how do you know where they had them last....I mean he even looks like he's touching her chin!....

I just read today another Priest, here in PA., was arrested for sexually abusing kids 'abroad'... He'd fly there and take advantage of the kids in a third world country. And surely on the nichol of the Church...be the people are angered all over again...they just keep showing they do NOT have this under control...they need to be booted.

[mlizzy]

Sending you this in hopes that it will help explain the importance of the remembrance of death.

MUSEUM INSPIRED SERIES: 'Victory over Death' a whimsical series of multicolored skulls reminding us of God's promise of Victory over Death when the New Adam (Jesus) brought redemption over the Old Adam. -Rosary Worshop

A FAMILY CUSTOM FROM CROATIA
When I was in grammar school my dad's uncles from Croatia and family would go to the graveyard the week before Easter to visit family graves. We carried with us special cakes, food and special wine to spread a table cloth over the family plot and had a nice party eating and talking about the departed loved ones. My special duty was to bury the mass cards under the head stones to remind Grandpa and other family members that we were remembering them and praying to get them out of purgatory. I remember my dad sharing a glass of wine with his dad by pouring it out over the grave.

Then my dad would gather his family around and pray a blessing over us and sprinkle holy water on our heads. Each family did that. Even after all these years I remember part of the prayers. Then the oldest family member would pray:

O Gracious Lord...in this place you give peaceful rest at the price of your life renewing blood. Wherefore you are the most gracious pardoner of our guilt, the most considerate judge, the lavish dispenser of clement judgement, we beg you to forget the severe judgment, and holy justice which we deserve, and only remembering only the mercies of your holy redemption, be to us an advocate and reconciler. Graciously purify and reconcile of those wanderers who await a place of dwelling in your heavenly fatherland. And we wait for the day when the Lord will awaken the bodies of them who are interred here by the power and goodness of Christ's glorious resurrection, to incorruptible glory, calling these souls not to condemnation but to beatification.

We trust in the mercies of our Holy Savior who will come to judge the living and the dead and the world by fire. Make the Sign of the Cross. Amen

"Because of doing this with my family in graveyards they don't bother me. I did not look at death as a family being broke up; but still together in the eternal family that Christ had redeemed us to be part of. I have even thought of wanting a rosary with skulls for the Our Father beads to pray to remember my death and the departed loved ones..." -Father JF (USA)

[CynicalBear]

Amen and Amen!!

[mlizzy]

Have you ever noticed that with too many add-on’s on your computer eventually it will slow it down....or you get tangled up with what exactly which add-on does what you need? ......It’s the same with catholicism........layers and layers of add-ons.

Not "add-ons," but paths to Christ. Have you ever read about the lives of the canonized saints? There are over 10,000 of them. If so, do you find them confusing? Some speak more simply than others. No one in Catholicism is trying to confuse you. Depth is not confusion.

[CynicalBear]

Showing more pagan customs doesn’t help strengthen the position of the Catholic Church.

[CynicalBear]

>>Have you ever read about the lives of the canonized saints?<<

Could you give scripture reference to sanctioning "canonized saints". I don't remember reading where the apostles taught that. They considered all believers saints.

[xzins]

The linguistic derivation of Easter is from the Germanic languages. In non-Germanic languagues, the word pascha is preserved.

In most of those languages, ‘east’ or a close homonym means the direction of the rising sun. (German ‘oesten”, English ‘east’, Dutch ‘oosten’, Danish ‘osten’, etc.)

In those languages ‘son’ or a close homonym means the male child of a parent: (German ‘sohn’, English ‘son’, Dutch ‘zoon’, Danish ‘son’)

In those languages ‘sun’ or a close homonym means the greater light that lights the day: (German ‘sonne’, English ‘sun’, Dutch ‘zonne’, Danish ‘sol’)

In those languages sunrise is about the sun ascending: German sonneaufgan, English sunrise, Dutch ‘zonsupgan”, solopgang)

So, in those Germanic languages a word play is possible with sun/son, and sunrise in the east.

That came to be an ‘easter’...when der sohn sonneaufgang im osten.

We still use that word play today: SonRise in the East.