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To: Secret Agent Man
secular cannot determine if a sacrament took place. not their expertise, or jurisdiction.

Not the least bit true.

If the priest was having a conversation at a food court in a shopping mall and was overheard by passersby, the secular authority would have every right to dispute a claim that he was hearing a confession. The church simply does not have plenary power to say what constitutes a protected conversation for the purposes of a secular law.

75 posted on 09/06/2014 7:39:50 PM PDT by FredZarguna (His first name is 'Unarmed,' and his given middle name is 'Teenager.')
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To: FredZarguna

straw argument. you know exactly what context confession is being talked about. in church, with a private confession to a pastor or priest.


79 posted on 09/06/2014 7:58:20 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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