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To: NKP_Vet; daniel1212
The rest of your post is not worth discussing. It’s the same anti-CatholicProtestant rhetoric you have posted hundreds of times. It never changes.

There, fixed it. :)

But seriously, NKP, I'm still waiting for you or anyone to come up with an argument that proves, beyond any shadow of doubt, that the "ecclesia" (called out ones) of Matthew 16:18 is in fact modern Rome as she now presents herself, with some similarities, yes, but many differences from that early "ecclesia" (called out ones). How do we know Rome wasn't the schismatic? Falling into heresy slowly doesn't make it right. Indeed, if you track the progress of most modern heresy movements, they usually get to keep the buildings and the name.  And the money and the politicians. It's the faithful that typically get marginalized and kicked out:

1Cor 1:26-29  For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called :  (27)  But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;  (28)  And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:  (29)  That no flesh should glory in his presence.

"For ye see your calling," as in "called out ones," as in "ecclesia," the word everyone loves to imagine as "church," in terms of buildings, pedigrees, membership rolls, etc etc etc. But Christ in Matthew 16:18 spoke of none of that. He spoke of His "called out" ones. Same as Paul here in 1 Cor. 1:26-29. I can identify with "not wise," not mighty," "not noble," "foolish," "weak," "base," "despised" (right here at FR), and so forth. That's the ecclesia. Those are the ones against whom the gates of Hell will not prevail. Figure out who they are, and join them, if you really want to be a member of the ecclesia Christ founded.

Peace,

SR
457 posted on 09/05/2014 5:23:58 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: Springfield Reformer
How do we know Rome wasn't the schismatic? Falling into heresy slowly doesn't make it right. Indeed, if you track the progress of most modern heresy movements, they usually get to keep the buildings and the name.

Well, according to the Eastern Orthodox, the RRC IS the schismatic one. The EO claim THEY are the original church.

463 posted on 09/05/2014 6:39:18 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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