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The Hail Mary of a Protestant
http://www.abouttherosary.com ^ | September 3, 2014 | Robbe Lyn Sebesta

Posted on 09/03/2014 6:36:07 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: SumProVita

Why don’t you quite playing word games and just say something worthy of responding to.


301 posted on 09/04/2014 9:59:13 AM PDT by caww
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To: NKP_Vet
Protestants have a child-like, elementary view of Christianity, The only thing necessary for their salvation is to BELIEVE!! Forget about living your life for others. Only BELIEVE! Do whatever you feel like doing. Stay drunk all the time, be a dope addict, shack up all your life and never get married, only BELIEVE! Never set foot in the front door of house of worship, only BELIEVE! Well by God if Billy Bob says the only requirement for going to heaven is to believe and watch his TV sermon, then that must make it true! Only believe!

Nice example of a straw man argument but I think the discussion on this thread has moved on from that topic.

302 posted on 09/04/2014 10:02:21 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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To: ShadowAce
I attended a Nazarene church while traveling...their central teachings of Christianity are clearly their focus so I had no issues. Most churches deviate when it comes to other issues to some degree or another....but the centrality of Jesus Christ and the Gospel message is pretty much across the board in most Evangelical churches....though even they are under attack today by “popular” culture and the Emergent Church teachings.
303 posted on 09/04/2014 10:04:23 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

You are my brother in Christ, correct?

Such was the connotation used in Biblical times.

In act, Paul uses “Brothers and sisters” quite often.

Christ was Mary’s only child.

Are you aware that they lives in little communities with neighbors? May four or six houses that shared a well and a cooking fire?

These were hteir brothers and sisters.

Another thing — the word for cousin isn’t used that much. The words brothers and sisters are substituted for it.


304 posted on 09/04/2014 10:05:53 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: caww

yeah—that’s why we go to this one. They are pretty Christ-centered, and the one or two issues in which we differ are not that important or vital to the faith.


305 posted on 09/04/2014 10:07:25 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Salvation

That argument has already been proven false and debunked.


306 posted on 09/04/2014 10:08:25 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: caww

Can you post the context with each of those? It makes a difference.


307 posted on 09/04/2014 10:08:29 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: caww

There would be no point because you can’t explain your responses. Apparently, you simply wish to respond, whether it addresses the question or not.

Have a nice rest of the day.


308 posted on 09/04/2014 10:09:49 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Salvation

You cannot simply switch contextual meanings in the middle of a sentence ( brothers does not mean brothers but “cousins.”) unless it is ‘obviously’ required..... It is not legitimate to say that because a word has a wide scope of meaning, that you may then transfer any part of that range of meaning to any other text that uses the word.

.... In other words, just because the word brother means fellow Jews or cousin in one place, does not mean it has the same meaning in another. Therefore, each verse should be looked at in context to see what it means. The context is clear....

These verse’s I gave are in full context of ‘familial relationship’... mother, brothers and sisters.

(However...I recognize that it’s necessary for catholics to say otherwise, the perpetual virginity of Mary is threatened, and since that contradicts Roman Catholic tradition, an interpretation that is consistent with that tradition must be adopted.)


309 posted on 09/04/2014 10:14:59 AM PDT by caww
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To: ShadowAce

Good on you for not letting small issues get in the way of the big picture. I’d have no problem attending there either...though I usually judge a church first and foremost by what the Pastor preaches/teaches.

As is said...”so goes the Pastor so goes the church”....

I prefer a teaching Pastor who centers on scripture teaching. Some are better at their appraoch then others I’ve found.


310 posted on 09/04/2014 10:20:54 AM PDT by caww
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To: Salvation

No...it’s clearly in the scriptures for you to read...Scripture often times interprets itself if you read in context.

I have given the verses...you might read the full context and let God reveal ‘to you’ as HE will. That is what will make the difference...His work to reveal truth, as we read, and let Him show us what He determines.


311 posted on 09/04/2014 10:24:35 AM PDT by caww
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To: SumProVita

I don’t have to explain my responses when they are clearly stated as they are. You asked how I knew...I told you clearly...If you don’t understand the word “context” then look it up...it’s that simple.


312 posted on 09/04/2014 10:29:00 AM PDT by caww
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To: SumProVita

Follow the thread...I’ve already addressed your statements in other posts.


313 posted on 09/04/2014 10:39:14 AM PDT by caww
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To: Salvation; caww
Can you post the context with each of those? It makes a difference.

That is an unreasonable request. If you want to raise a contextual concern, it is your responsibility to show exactly what in the context makes caww's conclusions inappropriate. Find us a specific example and show everyone how it makes a difference. Otherwise, it just looks like you're stymied by caww's use of scripture and hope that a vague, non-specific allegation of contextual problems will suffice as a response.

314 posted on 09/04/2014 10:41:53 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Ignore the GOP-e. Cruz to victory in 2016.)
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To: CommerceComet

Thank you very much.


315 posted on 09/04/2014 10:54:52 AM PDT by caww
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To: Salvation

You say you are Christian, but Mary worship makes one wonder.

BTW, I’ve been there... I escaped Rome because God saved me out of it.


316 posted on 09/04/2014 11:21:33 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: NKP_Vet; avenir
2,000 years of Catholic teaching on Mary and Orthodox teaching on Mary overrule any PROTESTant view on the Blessed Mother.

2,000 years of Catholic teaching heresy on Mary cannot overrule Scriptural teaching on Mary.

I'll stick with agreeing with the Holy Spirit in what He inspired in Scripture: *Mary, the mother of Jesus*.

That way, I KNOW I can't be wrong.

The Holy Spirit is clear in Scripture in calling Mary *the mother of Jesus*.

John 2:1 On the third day there was a wedding at Cana in Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there.

John 2:3 When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to him, “They have no wine.”

Acts 1:14 All these with one accord were devoting themselves to prayer, together with the women and Mary the mother of Jesus, and his brothers.

317 posted on 09/04/2014 11:34:24 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: avenir

Thanks.

Great post in 269, btw.


318 posted on 09/04/2014 11:36:33 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Salvation

Spell check doesn’t catch it if it’s spelled right.


319 posted on 09/04/2014 11:38:10 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: NKP_Vet

Catholics have a child-like and elementary and completely misguided notion of what Christians believe.

And while there may be those who call themselves Protestants to believe like that, no genuine Christian does.

So your thinly veiled attempt to broad brush and smear all Christians fails yet again.


320 posted on 09/04/2014 11:42:32 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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