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Posted on 09/02/2014 5:23:49 PM PDT by HarleyD
Preach it, brother.
For by grace you ARE saved.
We have passed from death unto life and have been transferred into the kingdom of the Son He loves.
We are now seated in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus and we now have in our hearts the Holy Spirit who has sealed us and who is the guarantee of our inheritance until we take possession of it.
We have begun in the Spirit and are not so foolish as to think that we finish in the flesh.
What was abolished was condemnation. The Torah is eternal and is the only standard for righteousness in the universe. It will out last the stars. Haven’t any of you read the “Sermon on the Mount”? Yeshua plainly expected his Talmidim to keep Torah. Read Psalm 1 for starters. I think it was his talmid Yochanan who said that if a man claims to be one with Yeshua then he ought to “walk” the same way as his master. The ancient manuscripts present Yeshua as a meticulous, Torah observant orthodox rabbi. Come on fellas, don’t be stubborn; HaShem is trying to lead you out to green pastures. Why be all tangled up in the sticker bushes?
John says that if you deny his commandments, you are not in him, and John would know better than you or I would. (Paul, Peter and James agree with John too)
Those that are relying on Yeshua are keeping his commandments, out of the love he planted in their hearts.
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Comment #21 is an example as you requested.
That's good....because Christ WILL keep his law IF we allow him to live through us and reign in our bodies. Our job is easy. See what his law is and let him do his thing...
I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me. And the life I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.
>> “Why be all tangled up in the sticker bushes?” <<
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Some of these guys think they’re Br’er Rabbit.
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In biblical language the condescension or benevolence (Greek charis) shown by God toward the human race; it is also the unmerited gift proceeding from this benevolent disposition. Grace, therefore, is a totally gratuitous gift on which man has absolutely no claim. Where on occasion the Scriptures speak of grace as pleasing charm or thanks for favors received, this is a derived and not primary use of the term.
As the Church has come to explain the meaning of grace, it refers to something more than the gifts of nature, such as creation or the blessings of bodily health. Grace is the supernatural gift that God, of his free benevolence, bestows on rational creatures for their eternal salvation. The gifts of grace are essentially supernatural. They surpass the being, powers, and claims of created nature, namely sanctifying grace, the infused virtues, the gifts of the Holy Spirit, and actual grace. They are the indispensable means necessary to reach the beatific vision. In a secondary sense, grace also includes such blessings as the miraculous gifts of prophecy or healing, or the preternatural gifts of freedom from concupiscence.
The essence of grace, properly so called, is its gratuity, since no creature has a right to the beatific vision, and its finality or purpose is to lead one to eternal life. (Etym. Latin gratia, favor; a gift freely given.)
See Also: ACTUAL GRACE, See Also: EFFICACIOUS GRACE, See Also: GRATUITOUS GRACE, See Also: HABITUAL GRACE, See Also: JUSTIFYING GRACE, See Also: SACRAMENTAL GRACE, See Also: SANATING GRACE, See Also: SANCTIFYING GRACE, See Also: SUFFICIENT GRACE
All items in this dictionary are from Fr. John Hardon's Modern Catholic Dictionary, © Eternal Life. Used with permission.
*Boggled!!*
What were we arguing over? GREAT article!
Right on the money.
And the LETTER found in Acts 15 is not 'popular' with you!
Now you are going to have to explain how man becomes WORTHY of that 'grace'.
I rather like John's gospel; especially chapter 6 verses 28-29
And, also in Scripture...
Romans 14:5-12 (KJV)
5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.
7 For none of us liveth to himself, and no man dieth to himself.
8 For whether we live, we live unto the Lord; and whether we die, we die unto the Lord: whether we live therefore, or die, we are the Lord's.
9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived, that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
10 But why dost thou judge thy brother? or why dost thou set at nought thy brother? for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
What 'flame war'?
All I saw what a request for more information from you.
How do YOU explain the contents of the LETTER found in Acts 15?
Drat!
There goes the need for that crucifixion thing and the resurrection!
Born and bred in a briar patch.
The Catholic view of GRACE is similar to a watermelon at a Gallagher show.
“I rather like John’s gospel; especially chapter 6 verses 28-29”
Me too!
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