**you can follow the law you don’t need Jesus.**
So, verses such as Acts 2:38, 5:32, and Rms 6:17 (not to mention conversion commands from Jesus Christ himself) are ‘law’ to you?
Your’s is so typical of Calvinist replies. Almost utter disregard for the conversions displayed in Acts. Yours, and other mainsteam protestant organizations gladly quote Acts 16:31, and avoid the ‘rest of the story’ where the Philippian jailor’s household was taught the Word and baptized.
But, I understand, for I was a proud Calvinist up to the age of 28. Our rural Presbyterian church was well stocked with studious, devout, and EXTREMELY conservative members. Going to movie theaters or even eating in an establishment that served liquor was looked down upon. Some refused playing card games and/or listening to music other than gospel.
Such godly behavior was commendable, but the disregard for Word’s conversion process was what opened my eyes. Death, burial, and resurrection:
Death and burial: Repentance, of course is required (even by Calvinists. For without that, one is burying a ‘live’ man; one that has not accepted the ‘not my will, but thine’ attitude). Buried with him in baptism unto death (Rms 6:3)
Resurrection: the power of the Holy Ghost to make one walk in newness of life (Rms 6:4)...AND... have the same Spirit that will ‘quicken’* our mortal bodies. (Rms 8:11)
(* not to be confused with that quicken mortgage loan dude.)
It’s all pretty basic scriptural teaching, but man-made tradition has blinded many. Luther didn’t leave behind all the man-made traditions, and neither did Calvin.
I didn't say that. You did.
Your’s is so typical of Calvinist replies. Almost utter disregard for the conversions displayed in Acts. Yours, and other mainsteam protestant organizations gladly quote Acts 16:31, and avoid the ‘rest of the story’ where the Philippian jailor’s household was taught the Word and baptized.
I have no idea what this tirade is about.
But, I understand, for I was a proud Calvinist up to the age of 28. Our rural Presbyterian church was well stocked with studious, devout, and EXTREMELY conservative members. Going to movie theaters or even eating in an establishment that served liquor was looked down upon. Some refused playing card games and/or listening to music other than gospel.
Proud Calvinist? The two are contradictory. You were one or the other. And perhaps there is your fundamental issue. And since you brought it up, what stream of Presbyterianism did you worship in?
I have been a member of more than a handful of Presbyterian and Reformed churches and a long term visitor of perhaps a dozen or so and I NEVER witnessed what you claim to have studied under.
Whatever we are commanded to do is law. What saves us is grace. I pray that on that great and fearful day I never point to anything that I have done as playing any part of why I should be admitted into the Kingdom>
Psalms 32:2 Blessed is the man against whom the Lord counts no iniquity, and in whose spirit there is no deceit.
And
Romans 4: 7“Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, and whose sins are covered; 8blessed is the man against whom the Lord will not count his sin.”