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To: Elsie
And I thought people who insist that Jesus Christ is a liar had the good sense not to pretend they're Christians after calling Christ a liar.

That's clearly not the case, though, since so many people who pretend they're Christian swear Luther was right to throw part of the Old Testament in the garbage while the Holy Spirit didn't lead the Apostles to do so which means Christ lied when He said the Holy Spirit would guide the Apostles to all Truth.

Just goes to show you that once people swallow the heresy Self and Self Alone disguised as modern Protestantism they believe and preach one lie after another whether it's about unicorns, purple cows, or calling Jesus Christ a liar.

181 posted on 08/26/2014 10:23:12 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin
That's clearly not the case, though, since so many people who pretend they're Christian swear Luther was right to throw part of the Old Testament in the garbage while the Holy Spirit didn't lead the Apostles to do so which means Christ lied when He said the Holy Spirit would guide the Apostles to all Truth.

And yet the 1611 KJV has all your precious, specious books in it!

I wonder how??

183 posted on 08/26/2014 1:35:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Rashputin
That's clearly not the case, though, since so many people who pretend they're Christian swear Luther was right to throw part of the Old Testament in the garbage while the Holy Spirit didn't lead the Apostles to do so which means Christ lied when He said the Holy Spirit would guide the Apostles to all Truth.

It wasn't part of the Old Testament to the Nation that was charged with keeping and preserving all the oracles of God...

And so up shows a group of Africans who say the Jews are wrong and you guys follow them into the ditch...And you're still following them centuries later...I (and Luther) will trust God on this one...

191 posted on 08/26/2014 5:36:33 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Rashputin
"That's clearly not the case, though, since so many people who pretend they're Christian swear Luther was right to throw part of the Old Testament in the garbage while the Holy Spirit didn't lead the Apostles to do so which means Christ lied when He said the Holy Spirit would guide the Apostles to all Truth."

I don't remember a list of "inspired documents" compiled by the Apostles that includes any of the contested books.

Do you have such a list by an Apostle? To be clear, they are listed here:

Matthew 10:1-4 “And he called to him his twelve disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal every disease and every affliction. The names of the twelve apostles are these: first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother; Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James the son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus; Simon the Zealot, and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him.”

Since Judas was removed, please include Matthias, who was chosen based on this criteria:

Acts 1:21-22; “So one of the men who have accompanied us during all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, beginning from the baptism of John until the day when he was taken up from us—one of these men must become with us a witness to his resurrection.”

Please also include the final Apostle chosen by Christ - The Apostle Paul.

Please show us the list of inspired Scriptures that an Apostle compiled.

Obviously, there is no such list.

It was not only right to remove books that were not part of the Hebrew Scriptures and were uninspired, over the past few hundred years that decision has been revisited many times with the same result. The Holy Spirit has indeed accomplished His work of preserving His Word.

One final question...

What important doctrine is included in those books alone that is important to you personally?

201 posted on 08/26/2014 6:50:55 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: Rashputin
That's clearly not the case, though, since so many people who pretend they're Christian swear Luther was right to throw part of the Old Testament in the garbage while the Holy Spirit didn't lead the Apostles to do so which means Christ lied when He said the Holy Spirit would guide the Apostles to all Truth.

Got a link to that post? Got a link to that anywhere?

Or can we just chalk it up to desperation in trying to deny the obvious, that Luther not only didn't throw anything out, but rather included a translation of the books of the Apocrypha?

209 posted on 08/26/2014 7:36:51 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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