So then the point of “first believe and you have eaten already” is not to say that we shouldn’t receive the Eucharist. So then to quote that as a “refutation” to the Dogma of Transubstantiation is misapplication of the quote because it has nothing to do with the nature of it. It’s not speaking of the nature of the Eucharist rather the importance of the belief in Christ just as I said!
“If you have “eaten already,” then consuming the consecrated bread is a redundancy.”
Again, what you aren’t getting is that kind of “logic” goes both ways if “believe and you have eaten already” means what you say it means. Because I can easily say to you (as I already have), “if you have ‘eaten already’ then consuming a symbol is a redundancy”.
Saint Cyril of Jerusalem’s Lecture 23. The complete version from Newadvent.org
http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/310123.htm
A version with excerpts from a personal lay Catholic Blog.
http://catholicnick.blogspot.com/2013/05/st-cyril-of-jerusalem-gives-example-of.html
Notice the sacraments are all there, the presbyters gather around God’s Altar [sacrificial aspect of the Holy Eucharist] and of course his stressing Tradition here as well as Scripture.
Reading Cyril of Jerusalem’s Lecture, it is quite obvious that any of us Catholics on this thread, if we could go back in time and celebrate the Holy Mass with Saint Cyril as the presider/celebrant of the Liturgy, would be totally at home because everything in the Liturgy he is teaching his parishoners in the Liturgy I attended last Sunday.
I mean, changing bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ, all the Prayers he is saying we [Catholics said last Sunday, and of course, every Sunday of our lives], I mean asking the saints and angels to intercede for us.
No, this guy can’t be Catholic, no not with the theology he is describing in this writing. Yea right.