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To: Campion

No, it goes on to explain what “adore” supposedly means in this circumstance. I can’t roll my eyes hard enough.


17 posted on 08/20/2014 11:39:54 AM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv
The Taylor Marshall link explained pretty clearly that the LG quote simply allows that Muslims profess to worship the God of Abraham, which is certainly true.

No, it goes on to explain what “adore” supposedly means in this circumstance. I can’t roll my eyes hard enough.

Indeed:

They shoot their arrow in the right direction (toward the “God of Abraham”), but they do not understand the target and their bow is too weak because their bow lacks the power of grace.

That could be true of a honest seeker who did not buy all the Muslim theology, or like some unnamed undefined god in contrast to a named defined deity, (Acts 17:22) but it cannot be true of Islam as a whole, which is what V2 and the CCC affirms as worshiping God.

For Islam actually denies the God of the Bible as being the one true God, contradicting Him in history, covenant and promises, and means of salvation, denying "God manifest in the flesh," and even His death and resurrection, among other things .

This is not a matter of misunderstanding the God of Abraham, but that of creating another God which makes the God of the Bible to be the misunderstanding. Thus Muslims need to repent of worshiping Allah in order to be saved, like as Paul commanded other pagans:

And saying, Sirs, why do ye these things? We also are men of like passions with you, and preach unto you that ye should turn from these vanities unto the living God, which made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and all things that are therein: (Acts 14:15)

23 posted on 08/20/2014 6:42:32 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: piusv
Well, don't hurt yourself or anything.

Keep in mind that the magisterium has no charism to teach the doctrines of a religion other than Catholicism. So any assertion they make about "what Muslims teach" or "what Muslims believe" cannot be authoritative in any definitive sense. (Muslims, after all, are the authority on what Muslims believe, not Catholics.)

The assertion that Muslims profess to adore the God of Abraham is about as far as the Vatican Council can press the issue, and even that assertion is only as good as the Muslims wish to make it.

26 posted on 08/20/2014 8:05:05 PM PDT by Campion
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