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To: xone
"I do find it interesting, that the place you find support for your contention is among the apostate, abortion loving, gay marriage crowd at elca. “See, they are just like Catholics in praying to Mary and the dead. And they are Lutherans because they say so.” Great company you keep."

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What kind of logic is that?

The ELCA Lutheran denomination prays to Jesus, just like you and your own Lutheran denomination does, xone. "Great company you keep."

When their Lutheran denomination, or your Lutheran denomination, or any other Lutheran denomination (or any other kind of denomination) teaches something that is correct, like praying to Jesus, or utilizing intercessory prayer to the saints, they are in alignment with the teachings of the Catholic Church founded by Jesus Christ, and I agree with them concerning those specific correct teachings only.

When any of these Lutheran denominations or any other denominations teach something wrong which goes against the teachings of the Catholic Church founded by Jesus Christ (such as advocating abortion and homo-marriage), they are obviously NOT aligned with the Catholic Church on those specific teachings, and they are completely wrong about them. There is a very plain and simple difference there.

Now, Pelosi and Biden do not comprise some other denomination, but, rather, are people who claim to be Catholics, but they do not believe or follow all the teachings of the Catholic Church. There is a VAST difference between the two situations.

(By the way, how many Lutheran denominations are there in the world now?)

129 posted on 08/23/2014 9:47:36 PM PDT by Heart-Rest ("Our hearts are restless, Lord, until they rest in Thee." - St. Augustine)
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To: Heart-Rest
The ELCA Lutheran denomination prays to Jesus, just like you and your own Lutheran denomination does, or utilizing intercessory prayer to the saints,

Even your example from the apostate elca, doesn't condone or endorse prayer TO the saints. Read what they said, not what your want it to say.

There is a VAST difference between the two situations.

Exactly the same situation, people claiming one thing, but in practice are something else.

(By the way, how many Lutheran denominations are there in the world now?)

Lutheran is a denomination, defined by the Lutheran Confessions. To the extent that a body is in consonance with those confessions, they are Lutheran. Many who call themselves Lutheran aren't, just like Catholics.

133 posted on 08/24/2014 10:43:04 AM PDT by xone
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