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The Catholic Defender: Mary, Queen Of Heaven
http://www.deepertruthblog.com ^ | August 19, 2014

Posted on 08/19/2014 7:57:09 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

This coming August 22, the Feast of Mary, Queen of Heaven will be celebrated throughout the world. Deepertruth will focus this Tuesday on this most important topic.

The Marian teaching “Queen of Heaven” is steeped in Old Testament tradition.

There are those who misunderstand this teaching and will even claim it is Pagan. Nothing can be furthest from the truth.

Some will surely want to raise the scripture coming from Jeremiah 7:16-18, “You, now, do not intercede for this people; raise not in their behalf a pleading prayer! Do not urge me, for I will not listen to you. Do you not see what they are doing in the cites of Judah, in the streets of Jerusalem? The Children gather wood, their fathers light the fire, and the women knead dough to make cakes for the queen of heaven, while libations are poured out to strange gods in order to hurt me. Is it I whom they hurt, says the Lord; is it not rather themselves, to their own confusion?”

The queen of heaven that Jeremiah is speaking of is not the Blessed Virgin Mary who is the true Queen of Heaven, but rather a false god. The Israelites worshiped Pagan gods that displeased the Lord. The Babylonians worshiped a woman called “Ishtar“, she was the goddess of love and war. Prostitution was a part of the temple worship. She was known to have had many lovers.

Contrast this with the Blessed Virgin Mary who represents chastity, modesty, faithfulness, and love of God. She is the purest of God’s creation. Unlike Ishtar and other female goddesses who were worshiped and called “God the Mother“, the Blessed Virgin Mary is called Mother of God. Not because she is a goddess, she is not, but because Catholics recognize Jesus as Divine. He is truly God and man.

Is Mary the true Queen of Heaven, is there such a position within the kingdom of God? The answer is yes, and this Queen is the Blessed Virgin Mary.

The foundation for this is found in 1 Kings 2:12-20. “When Solomon was seated on the throne of his father David, with his sovereignty firmly established, Adonjah, son of Haggith, went to Bathsheba, the mother of Solomon. ‘Do you come as a friend?’ She asked. ‘Yes’, he answered, and added, ‘I have something to say to you,’ She replied, ‘Say it.’ So he said: ‘You know that the kingdom was mine, and all Israel expected me to be king. But the kingdom escaped me and became my brother’s, for the Lord gave it to him. But now there is one favor I would ask of you. Do not refuse me.’ And she said, ‘Speak on.’ He said, ‘Please ask King Solomon, who will not refuse you, to give me Abishag the Shunamite for my wife.’ ‘Very well,’ replied Bathsheba, I will speak to the king for you.’ Then Bathsheba went to King Solomon to speak to him for Adonijah, and the king stood up to meet her and paid her homage. Then he sat down upon his throne, and a throne was provided for the king’s mother, who sat at his right.”

Bathsheba thus became the first Queen of Israel, the Queen was not a wife of the king, but the King’s mother.

Jesus is truly the Son of David, The angel Gabriel spoke of Jesus saying, “Behold, you (Mary) will conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall name him Jesus. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High, and the Lord God will give him the throne of David his father, and he will rule over the house of Jacob forever, and of his kingdom there will be no end.” (Luke 1:3-33).

Jesus said, “Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, then I will enter his house and dine with him, and he with me. I will give the victor the right to sit with me on my throne, as I myself first won the victory and sit with my Father on his throne” (Revelation 3:20).

We see a glimpse of this heavenly glory with the Messiah in heaven in Psalms 45. In verse 9-10 we see a very important scripture relating to the Blessed Virgin Mary, the Mother of Jesus. It reads, “daughters of kings are among your ladies of honor; at your right hand stand the Queen in gold of Ophir”. Psalms 45:1-9 refers to Jesus and verses 9-17 concerns this queen. The same Queen St. John writes, “And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars” (Revelation 12:1).

Psalms 45 continues to say, “Hear, O daughter, consider, and incline your ear; forget your people and your father’s house; and the king will desire your beauty. Since he is your Lord, bow to him; the people of Tyre will sue your favor with gifts, the richest of the people with all kinds of wealth. The princess is decked in her chamber with gold-woven robes; in many colored robes she is led to the king, with her virgin companions, her escort, in her train. With joy and gladness they are led along as they enter the palace of the king. Instead of your fathers shall by your sons; you will make them princes in all the earth. I will cause your name to be celebrated in all generations; therefore the peoples will praise you forever and ever”(Psalms 45:9-17).

Notice that the “rich” seeks her favor, just like Adonjah had first sought Bathsheba’s intercession.

The Queen of Psalms 45 will be remembered and celebrated in all generations, and the people will praise her forever.

Is there any other woman in history that can fit this description? Hillary Clinton?

This praise will not be worship that is given to God alone, but it will be honor and petition.

Notice what Mother Mary says, “My soul magnifies the Lord, and my spirit rejoices in God my savior, for he has regarded the low estate of his handmaiden. For behold, henceforth all generations will call me blessed; for he who is mighty has done great things for me, and holy is his name. And his mercy is on those who fear him from generation to generation. He has shown strength with his arm, he has scattered the proud in the imagination of their hearts, he has put down the mighty from their thrones, and exalted those of low degree; he has filled the hungry with good things, and the rich he has sent empty away. He has helped his servant Israel, in remembrance of his mercy, as he spoke to our fathers, to Abraham and to his posterity for ever” (Luke 1:46-55).

Psalms 45:9-17 and Luke 1:47-55 speak of the same person. The Virgin Mary, as the Queen of Heaven represents Jesus Christ in all that she does. There is no likeness to the pagan goddesses that were worshiped by the Babylonians and the cultures surrounding the nation of Israel in the Old Testament.


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To: sasportas

Wow. So you align yourself with two false religions’ (one of which is absolutely of the Devil) view of Christ’s Church.

mmmkay.


41 posted on 08/19/2014 2:48:07 PM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv

Judaism - false (they do not believe in Christ the Son of God)

Islam - false (they do not believe in Christ the Son of God)

Syncretized Christianity amd it’s Mary idolatry (the Papacy) - though they believe in Christ the Son of God, their Mariolatry, among their many other forms of syncretism, renders it a false religion, some would say a cult...like Mormonism.

Biblical Christianity, which believes in Christ the Son of God, and refutes the forms of paganiam found in the RCC, in this case it’s Mariolatry


42 posted on 08/19/2014 3:16:37 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas

Sola Scriptura is heresy.


43 posted on 08/19/2014 3:17:45 PM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv

You are so right, the scriptures are what separates us, those of us who hold the scriptures supreme, from the Papists who do not - who hold the Popes of Rome and its hierarchy, and its pagan superstitions, like Mariolatry, supreme.


44 posted on 08/19/2014 3:55:52 PM PDT by sasportas
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To: sasportas

Sola Scriptura is heresy.


45 posted on 08/19/2014 3:57:39 PM PDT by piusv
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To: NKP_Vet
Read this:

The Queen of Heaven
46 posted on 08/19/2014 4:21:54 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama: The turd that won't flush.)
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To: Pyro7480
You think everything the Apostles taught is contained in Scripture? If that's the case, then why all the controversy in the earliest ages of Christianity over Christ's natures?

Everything God wants us to know is.
47 posted on 08/19/2014 4:24:12 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama: The turd that won't flush.)
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To: NKP_Vet
with his sovereignty firmly established, Adonjah, son of Haggith, went to Bathsheba, the mother of Solomon...Bathsheba thus became the first Queen of Israel, the Queen was not a wife of the king, but the King’s mother.

Poor example. Adonjah request was a contrivance to take away the kingdom from Solomon. Bathsheba (ie, first queen) was a dupe for Adonjah. Not only did Solomon denied his mother's request, but he immediately had Adonjah killed for treason.

There is only the Trinity. There is no one else that we're to pray to or worship. With Mary, Catholics have made her the fourth person of the Trinity (oxy moron).

48 posted on 08/19/2014 4:30:33 PM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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To: NKP_Vet
Tonto, Catholics DO NOT WORSHIP MARY. You are showing your ignorance.


49 posted on 08/19/2014 4:31:09 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama: The turd that won't flush.)
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To: Old Yeller

This person is merely praying.


50 posted on 08/19/2014 4:39:03 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
This person is merely praying.

Merely praying to an idol, if she is not praying to God.
51 posted on 08/19/2014 4:48:35 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama: The turd that won't flush.)
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To: Old Yeller

She is praying to the person of Mary, the Mother of God. Not to the statue.

Sometimes I just shake my head at all these repeated misconceptions.


52 posted on 08/19/2014 4:50:08 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes

“In fact, Jesus and the first century church used these same ‘old testament’ books (or tanakh) when this thing called ‘christianity’ was just getting started”

The study of the Scriptures thrived throughout the middle ages, an era in which theology and Biblical studies were considered the “pinnacle of learning” and the “queen of the sciences.” During the Middle Ages, the Catholic Church preserved and transmitted the Scriptures. It is said that two monks working full-time required four years to transcribe the entire Bible. Hence, it was due to their incredible value and their desirability as an object to steal that Bibles were sometimes chained down in churches and libraries (as were other books of high value), and not because of a Church conspiracy to keep the Bible from the masses, as some would assert. To the contrary, the Church did all in its power to transmit the written word during the Middle Ages as it also helped to preserve Western learning and culture. Could care less if it was the New Testament or Old Testament. Fact is fact. The only Christians that existed before the heretic Luther broke the church apart were CATHOLICS. Without the Catholic CHurch there would no Bible, OT or NT.


53 posted on 08/19/2014 5:08:27 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Salvation

Mary and idolatry
54 posted on 08/19/2014 5:10:37 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama: The turd that won't flush.)
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To: Salvation
She is praying to the person of Mary, the Mother of God. Not to the statue.

Sometimes I just shake my head at all these repeated misconceptions.


So, if a million Catholics worldwide happen to be praying to Mary at the same time, can she hear all of them at the same time? Does she possess attributes of God? Is she omnipresent or omniscient?
55 posted on 08/19/2014 5:18:05 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Obama: The turd that won't flush.)
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To: Old Yeller

Of course she can hear them. Why do you doubt?


56 posted on 08/19/2014 5:20:27 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation
What will Christ say to you at the moment you die since you don’t honor his mother in a similar fashion?

Nothing, if it mattered to Christ, He would have prescribed it, He didn't. What matters is honoring Christ.

57 posted on 08/19/2014 5:21:52 PM PDT by xone
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To: Old Yeller
So, if a million Catholics worldwide happen to be praying to Mary at the same time, can she hear all of them at the same time? Does she possess attributes of God?

God can infuse us with knowledge, can't He?

Besides, we really don't know how time works in heaven, or what our glorified abilities will be.

“Eye has not seen and ear has not heard, nor has the heart of man conceived the good things that God has in store for those who love Him!”

58 posted on 08/19/2014 5:27:05 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: LearnsFromMistakes

Welcome! :)


59 posted on 08/19/2014 5:52:46 PM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: Old Yeller

Oh good, you read minds. If I send you a picture of my puppy, could you tell me what goes on in that head of hers?


60 posted on 08/19/2014 5:54:39 PM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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