Posted on 08/07/2014 5:07:24 AM PDT by NYer
The head of the Oklahoma City satanic church that is planning a black mass in a public venue next month says the Eucharistic Host he plans to use in the ritual was mailed to him by a friend.
" I'm sick of hearing about this 'Consecrated Host,'" Adam Daniels, of the organization, the Dakhma of Angra Mainyu, wrote in an emailed response to questions from Aleteia. "As my understudy has told other Catholic Inquisitors, the Eucharist was mailed to us by [a] friend. That is all I'm going to say about how it was attained [sic]. My question is, why is a piece of bread that some man said some words over so sacred?"
Daniels, who uses the title Dasturthe term for Zoroastrian high priestsaid in a subsequent email today that "As far as I know, the host mailed to me is consecrated."
He confirmed that the black mass that is generating controversy in Oklahoma City and beyond, will go forward as planned on Sept. 21.
"The abridged Black Mass (from the Satanic Rituals by [Anton] LaVey) will take place," he said. "Then The Choke [a local band] will perform. After that, Matthew Garman will have a Satanic (Ahrimanic) Exorcism done [which purports to remove the Holy Spirit from him]. Kelsey [Daniels] and I will be presiding over this rite. Before each ritual I will lecture on the purpose and point of each ritual as it pertains to the Ahrimanic [Satanic] Faith."
He added: "I'm renting a small space one time a year to educate the public about my religion. This is protected by my First Amendment Right as a citizen of the United States, not a brainwashed sheep of the Catholic Empire."
The event is to take place in a 92-seat theatre in the civic center. Daniels said no city official has asked him to reconsider the event, in light of protests by local Catholics, led by Archbishop Paul S. Coakley of Oklahoma City. "Their [sic] are some who are quite tickled at all of this."
Archbishop Coakley
I invite all Catholics to pray daily for divine protection through the intercession of this heavenly patron who once defeated Lucifer in his rebellion against the Almighty and who stands ready to assist us in this hour of need, he wrote.
Archbishop Coakley also asked each parish to conduct a Eucharistic Holy Hour with Benediction at least once between the Solemnity of the Assumption of the Blessed Virgin Mary, Aug 15, and Sept. 21, the date of the planned black mass. On that day, he plans to conduct a holy hour and outdoor Eucharistic procession and benediction at St. Francis of Assisi Church in Oklahoma City at 3pm, four hours prior to the performance.
Among parishes participating is Christ the King in Oklahoma City. A spokeswoman, Kelly Fanning, described the mood in the archdiocese: "As you might expect, the mood among the Catholics with whom Ive had direct communication about the matter is mixed, ranging from those who worry that we may be 'over-reacting' and inadvertently giving the black mass more attention than it might otherwise receive to those who feel strongly that this challenge to decency and all that is good and right must not stand without every effort of community advocacy, political action and, most importantly and perhaps most effectively, prayer."
The archbishop also asked Catholics in the archdiocese to contact Oklahoma City Mayor Mick Cornett to express "outrage over this offensive and blasphemous sacrilege and this misuse of a tax-supported public space."
The mayors office has heard from many people since the archbishop first sent out a press release in early July, said a city spokeswoman. There has been an increase in these contacts since the archbishops new letter to Catholics was published Monday, she said.
"We can say that weve had calls from several states, and know that several from Oklahoma have spoken up," said the spokeswoman, Jennifer Lindsey-McClintock. "Overall the feedback has been that of anger and disappointment."
Archbishop Coakley first spoke out against the plans for the black mass in early July, when it was learned that the Dakhma of Angra Mainyu planned to stage the ritual. That news followed a similar controversy in the spring, when a New York Satanic group tried to present the rite at Harvard University. A large outpouring of Catholic prayer and protest led to the cancellation of that event.
Archbishop Coakley's letter followed a similar appeal from Bishop Edward J. Slattery of Tulsa, Okla., who asked Catholics in his diocese over the weekend to fast and pray from Aug. 6-15 so that the black mass may be cancelled.
Jim Brown, general manager of the Civic Center, has said that as a public facility, the center could not turn down a group that wanted to rent space there, as long as the group was law-abiding. Archbishop Coakley wasn't buying that argument.
It is hard to imagine the Civic Center turning a blind eye and allowing a group to use its facilities to burn a copy of the Koran, or to conduct an overtly anti-Semitic performance, he said in an earlier statement.
Well put.
My mentioning the Catholic church was in response to someone else posting to me about the Catholic church and what the RCC wants from him.
This entire thread was one group sniping at the other.
Here we are on a thread, about Satanists openly worshipping Satan, in THIS COUNTRY, founded on and to God, and those of us who follow Christ are taking time to snipe each other, instead of being interested in the real issue.
I don't care if you believe in no instruments in church or have a full on rock concert. I don't care if you raise your hands, jump, wiggle and shout hallelujah, or sit quietly in a pew.
Whether one believes the wafer and wine turn to flesh and blood is for another discussion.
Satans in the front yard, burning a cross and we're arguing about who can throw water on the fire and if they'll throw it correctly.
Christians of every denomination should be rallying together, strapping on each others armor, watching each others back and going to war.
Welcome to the religion forum. That's how we do.
Ohhh...I've been around for awhile.
Gotten into a few heated ones, here and there.
But this thread was about Satanists and all people could focus on was each other.
pussies...
this is not even going to get them the attention they want
if they had a set of balls they should announce a mass koran burning, and watch as hilarity ensues (I love it when hilarity ensues)
So, now I guess it's YOUR turn to snipe at me because the tone of this thread isn't up to par, in your opinion. Lol.
If Christians could "RALLY TOGETHER" there wouldn't BE 30,000-40,000 DIFFERENT Protestant denominations.
But, I assume that bit of logic eluded you.
There are 1.2 billion Catholics in the world.
How many are there of EACH of the 30,000-40,000 Protestant denominations are there? GOOGLE has to list them by denominations, as the very denominations differ as they travel from pillar to post.
Google cites 800,000 Protestants in the world but they have to be listed by the 30,000-40,000 DIFFERENT denominations. That gets the numbers fairly low.
Remember, there are Anglicans ONLY because Henry VIII wasn't allowed to keep marrying new women (Divorced, beheaded, died, divorced, beheaded, survived.) to get his son. The realm was eventually ruled by a queen ANYWAY. All that death for NOTHING.
But, now the "head" of that church is Queen Elizabeth. She is the "popette." Someday it will be Pope Charles and his wife, Camilla, Mrs. "popette."
YES, now I remember.
THANK you.
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THANKS, Legatus. mountn man must have missed the orientation forum where it's WRITTEN in the rules of FR that we snipe in the religious forum. I wrote mountn man a little letter saying that I guess it was HIS turn to snipe at me.
Odd how sniping is directly proportional to the assurance of being RIGHT that one has. He took exception to people sniping at each other, while sniping AT ME. :o)
I LOVE this site.
DANG, I miss the scroll feature!
I was responding to someone else. YOU chose to chime in.
Here is your first statements to me.
Personally, I don't care what the RC church, or any other church, wants. I don't follow "a church". I follow God. And the fact that this nation USED TO BE a "Christian" nation, but now Satanists feel free to mock God openly here, just shows how we as a nation, but also WE as Christians, have slid. There are more people on this thread, squabbling over wafers and bread, than are concerned that Satan is going to be worshipped and exalted in a public square in this nation.
We ALL follow God if we believe in God. Catholics don't "follow a church" either. You don't seem to know a whole lot about Catholicism. If you did you wouldn't have said what you did.
See that area in red? If you would have focused your ADD brain a little, you would have seen the issue I was addressing.
You were quick to cut and paste what I posted. If you would have pulled your too tights out and looked back at what I was responding to, you would have seen the CONTEXT of my post.
INSTEAD...YOU CHOSE to be offended.
YOU CHOSE to make this a diatribe about the Catholic Church.
And after my explaining to you my position about the thread YOU... continue TO CHOOSE to make this an us vs them argument.
Nothing in the title said Catholic Caucus.
So as a Christian, I made a comment.
How far this nation has slid, when a black mass is performed, unashamedly, in public. With the support of the public.
Post #3
There was nothing derogatory towards Catholics, or mentioning Catholics.
Someone responded saying something about the First Amendment.
My next response (post #13)
My point is the moral decay of this country. Whether people agree or not, this country WAS founded as a God honoring and God fearing country. Our country has slidden so far, that at one time a Satanist would have been ashamed to admit it privately, let alone publicly. Where is the public outcry? Not just from the Catholic church. But every church in the area. 60 years ago, even non religious people would have been outraged and decrying this. Say what you want about the First Amendment, but I doubt that James Madison or any of the signers of The Constitution, would have allowed this in their day.
Again...NOTHING against the Catholic church.
If anything, I point out that EVERY church should be involved.
(But seeing that the publication is Catholic, it makes sense that they focus on the Catholic involvement).
I made my next post at #30, as I said earlier, in a response SOMEONE ELSE made to me about the Catholic Church.
It wasn't a comment aimed at or about the Catholic Church. Once again, it was the THIRD time I had stated how far our nation has fallen away from following God.
It was also the first time I mentioned people squabbling over little issues, versus the larger issue.
It was at this point you chimed in.
Pushing your Catholic agenda.
I then tried to explain to you that I meant nothing against the Catholic Church. That I was trying to focus on THE ISSUE of a black mass being performed in public.
Which by the way IS what the article is about.
So, now I guess it's YOUR turn to snipe at me because the tone of this thread isn't up to par, in your opinion. Lol.
Listen Pal, I was just setting you straight on what I had posted. THERE WASN'T any "my denomination is better than yours" or "your belief in this or that is screwy". THAT would be sniping.
You know, I really DON'T CARE that there are 1.2 Catholics IN THE WORLD...OOOOOOOOO
I don't care if Google says there are 800,000 Protestants.
Current counts say there are about 2.18 billion CHRISTIANS worldwide.
I don't care how many denominations there are. I have friends who go to churches from other denominations than mine and have gone to church with them and worshipped with them and some of them with me.
I don't care about King Henry or Queen Elizabeth or Charles or Camilla.
That has no bearing on me.
What I do care about, is this once GREAT NATION has fallen.
Where Satanists are emboldened to perform their sacrilege, because CHRISTIANS have become impotent in society.
God bless you, son, and your family.
You’re welcome my FRiend!
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