Posted on 07/31/2014 11:11:43 AM PDT by greyfoxx39
Mormons have some really weird beliefs. For example, many (all) Mormons believe they (males only) can take a cooking/salad oil, pour just a small drop on the crown of your head and their god will heal them of almost anything.
Mormons believe that by wearing ugly underwear bought from a specific company, their god will protect them from harm.
Mormons believe that by wearing a really weird looking costume they are taught secret ways to touch angels so after they die, the angels will let Mormons get into heaven quicker.
Mormons believe their god requires women to not wear outer clothing that covers their crotch (pants) to worship their god in a large and spacious room (chapel).
Mormons believe that a little torn piece of bread and a small sip of water that has been chanted over and then swallowed will require their god to forgive them for their sins.
Mormons believe by consuming certain foods and wearing funny looking clothes god loves them more than the rest of the humans.
It is the same with all parents. We love our children more or less depending upon how ugly their clothes are and how they consume small bits of food items.
The Mormon god must have a sense of humor watching his "SPECIAl" children called Mormons think this makes god love them the most.
Greyfoxx, if you read her posts, is patriotic, moral, decent, and clean...and she votes conservative. She isn't advocating the destruction of Israel; nor does she advocate driving Christians from Iraq or kidnapping girls from Nigeria; beheading infidels; practicing female genital mutilation; prenatal holocaust; or advocates open borders (the list goes on)
So Bethelgrad: Let greyfoxx be.
(Oh, and btw, be sure you mention to Jesus when you see him that mocking the Pharisees as "whitewashed tombstones" and "vipers" (Matthew 23) and children of Satan (John 8) also apparently "doesn't any good" and He should have left well enough alone)
Ding, ding, ding. Hold the phones. We have a winner.
Exactly. Last I checked the Mormons aren't much involved into the beheading and slaughter racket so who cares what their beliefs are.
Did you mean "censor" or "censure"?
If you meant, "censor," kind of a hilarious irony there.
'Cause that is essentially saying, "Shut up about trying to make me shut up."
I have to say...based upon my last five posts, I haven't seen so many posters out of touch re: ...
...applying their own prescriptive advisements about others' expressions --
...to themselves...!!!
...I mean I don't believe I've EVER seen a single thread exhibiting this kind of pattern to the degree I've seen it on one FR thread!
It's like people just somehow "don't get it" that when...
...you're critical toward somebody you perceive as being critical, you're a part of the problem you're preaching against!
Or...
...if you bash somebody you accuse of bashing, please, doc, heal yourself of "bashitis!"
Of if you openly judge somebody you think is judging others, please then fill us in why your judgment happens to be so sacrosanct and theirs isn't?
Did somebody proclaim this "Rank Hypocrisy Weekend" by edict, and I just missed it, or what?
Ah...such wonderful logic.
By this "Logic" -- anybody attempting to hold somebody accountable for say, verbal abuse...is somehow "off-base" because you can ALWAYS point to rapists...abortionists...people forcing pre-teens to become rebels in Africa...pedophiles, etc as "worse" folk.
Truly mind-boggling.
By all means, open up the prisons and release everybody but the death-row inmates by such sage reasoning.
ALL: Jeff Head's Mormon years have included the 1960s, and the 1970s, and part of the 1980s when he regarded Lds "apostle" Bruce McConkie as his "apostle" and spokesman for the official Mormon church. (McConkie died in 1985).
Here's just one tidbit of what McConkie said about the "Jesus" Christians worship:
"And virtually all the millions of apostate Christendom have abased themselves before the mythical throne of a mythical Christ whom they vainly suppose to be a spirit essence who is incorporeal uncreated, immaterial and three-in-one with the Father and Holy Spirit" (Lds "apostle" Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, pg.269).
So McConkie concluded that...
...The Christ of Christianity is...
...'mythical'...
And that He is "mythical" BECAUSE Christians regard Him as "uncreated"...
...and "three in one" with the Father and Holy Spirit.
Now...here's what's interesting.
Apparently it was A-OK for Jeff Head's Mormon "apostle" to lambast millions of Christians about their belief in Christ.
But if Christians dare say anything about the supernaturally regarded underwear worn by Mormons, that's somehow detrimental to the "steadfast witness for Jesus Christ" -- which apparently must be a different Jesus if the Mormon "apostle's" Jesus in created and isn't One with the Father and the Holy Spirit.
Well, let's apply your own "First Principles" to your questions:
Why do YOU care what I believe about what Mormons believe? Am I harming you in any way at all?
(ALL: You see the lack of consistency by even so-called conservative posters these days?)
The "Mantra" uttered is two-fold: If somebody isn't harming you personally, why critique them?
(All as they critique others -- posters on this thread, for example -- who aren't harming them!)
Yet they fail to apply their own operating Principles to themselves!
If, as Lizavetta implies, we aren't to care about the details of other religion's beliefs, then why bother to care about what posters say in their commentary details about these beliefs?
If we take Lizavetta's advice, we are to simply ignore most religious expressions (in this case, most of the Mormon doctrinal expressions).
Yet she/he can't see to ignore our religious expressions about the Mormon beliefs on this thread?
Tell us, Lizavetta: Why is Mormon doctrine ignore-worthy, but apparently our comments about Mormon doctrine isn't ignore-worthy?...and, in fact, you're paying a fair amount of attention to them?
(Can you spell h-y-p-o-c-r-i-s-y re: practicing the mantras you preach?)
No one is saying you may not post an opinion about Mormonism or should not or can not. Fly at it. I am questioning your vitriol about their beliefs. Key word question. Why does what they believe bother you?
(If all Christian church bodies took this 'tude you and other FReepers on this thread seem to exhibit, we'd call all the missionaries home from the relatively "non-hostile" areas & only send them to hostile areas)
I guess you can call it the "new dualism"...where spiritual warfare is nary a thought...and only harm & potential harm to the body is to be concerned about...
Me? I try to take our cultural cue from a certain "Lord" named Jesus Christ...I mean, who are we to follow when it comes to setting cultural priorities? Jesus?
Here's Jesus:
"I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more. But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him." (Luke 12:4-5)
So does Jesus say, "fear the bomber-terrorists?" (No)
Does Jesus say "fear the 'atrocity-mongers?'" (No)
Does Jesus say "fear the be-headers?" (No)
Instead, does He say to exercise fear of the One who has authority to cast somebody into hell? (Yes)
So, indeed, our "fear" is on behalf of those who are placing their eternal spiritual lives at risk. Of course, this includes Muslims as well...thankfully...not everybody has ADD or ADHD in this generation...like the Silent Generation which fought WWII, some can multi-task on multiple frontlines!
As the apostle Paul was leaving the church of Ephesus, he warned them with this high-priority alert:
"I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them. So be on your guard! Remember that for three years I never stopped warning each of you night and day with tears." (Acts 20:29-31)
Paul's cultural priority? (Defend against the false disciples who will proselytize the flock and draw away men unto themselves!)
Tell me something, Lizavetta: If you did something tearfully night and day for three years, do you think it's rather important? So what? We're just to conclude, "Oh, the man who contributed a good chunk to the New Testament -- what does he know about cultural priorities?"
So the question comes right back atcha: Why does it seem to bother you what others believe (& post) about Mormon doctrine?
Someone once researched how when people are lying, they use a lot of words.
It's hard enough to communicate via this time delayed medium; so why make it harder?
GMTA?
Last I checked the Mormons are STILL sending 80k plus little well taught drones into the world's neighborhoods for a YEAR of their lives; pounding on doors and trying to sell their product 10/6/365!
Our little cadre of a few individuals on FR really seem to get a LOT of people's ire increased by pointing out the OTHER features of their product that they REALLY don't want folks to know about until they've plunked down a great deal of their time and money and have come up with a very sickening case of Buyer's Remorse.
Last time I checked; the BIBLE still has an admonition to it's believers to point out and expose false teachings.
Are you saying that you are ok with falsehoods being propagated?
Have you really ever 'checked' into Mormonism and what it teaches?
Someone else agrees as well...
Mormon here, comfortable and happy in my faith. I hope that everyone remains free to practice their religion as they desire and that we can preserve that precious liberty here and throughout the world.
Well; about the plane stuff, anyway.
He'll swear to his dying day that Mormonism is the ONLY correct way; and, if were present in this thread; would be asking you...
Someone else once researched how when people are unable to counter the truth; they use few words.
HMMMmmm...
And he said to the woman, Has God indeed said, You shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
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