Magic Underwear & Magic Food

http://exmormon.org/phorum/read.php?2,1340878 ^ | July 31, 2014

[greyfoxx39]

Mormons have some really weird beliefs. For example, many (all) Mormons believe they (males only) can take a cooking/salad oil, pour just a small drop on the crown of your head and their god will heal them of almost anything.

Mormons believe that by wearing ugly underwear bought from a specific company, their god will protect them from harm.

Mormons believe that by wearing a really weird looking costume they are taught secret ways to touch angels so after they die, the angels will let Mormons get into heaven quicker.

Mormons believe their god requires women to not wear outer clothing that covers their crotch (pants) to worship their god in a large and spacious room (chapel).

Mormons believe that a little torn piece of bread and a small sip of water that has been chanted over and then swallowed will require their god to forgive them for their sins.

Mormons believe by consuming certain foods and wearing funny looking clothes god loves them more than the rest of the humans.

It is the same with all parents. We love our children more or less depending upon how ugly their clothes are and how they consume small bits of food items.

The Mormon god must have a sense of humor watching his "SPECIAl" children called Mormons think this makes god love them the most.

[Elsie]

The Bible says God needs your help in making His judgments?

Well...

 

Jesus has commanded us to judge!

 

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“Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? Do you not know that the saints will judge the world?... And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters?... Do you not know that we shall judge angels?... How much more, things that pertain to this life?.. If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge ? (1 Corinthians 6:1-5).

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Many commands of God require the exercise of righteous judgment.

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“But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us” (2 Thessalonians 3:6).

“And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother” (2 Thessalonians 3:14,15).

“Teach and exhort these things. If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wrangling of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself” (2 Timothy 6:2b-5).

“Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple” (Romans 16:17,18).

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All these commands require the careful exercise of righteousness judgment. Do not be deceived by smooth words and flattering speech. Beware of wolves who come to you with a sheep’s skin.

We must be careful not to make unqualified judgments. But we must judge appropriately when commanded to do so.

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 “Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.”  (John 7:24).

[miss marmelstein]

In a post over tattoos about a year ago - in which I said that tattoos are disallowed in Judaism and Christianity - I had all my private messages disappeared for an hour and all my posts removed without the usual “removed by mod” explanation. Just disappeared. I was also forced to log on for hours after my post. The mod who I believe was responsible is now long gone and another fine freeper helped me out of the trouble.

I know it sounds paranoid but I had several freepers write me privately that this had happened with them - by the same mod. Sadly, all of them had experienced these problems on the religious forums. So I’m determined if it happens again that at least I’ve gone on record about it. Hasn’t happened after the first log off/log on last night.

[Elsie]

It is my understanding that he married these young women, that is more than most men would do.

Decisions decisions!

Emma Hale only!!

Fanny Alger Lucinda Morgan Harris Louisa Beaman Zina Huntington Jacobs Presendia Huntington Buell Agnes Coolbrith Sylvia Sessions Lyon Mary Rollins Lightner Patty Bartlett Sessions Marinda Johnson Hyde Elizabeth Davis Durfee Sarah Kingsley Cleveland Delcena Johnson Eliza R. Snow Sarah Ann Whitney Martha McBride Knight Ruth Vose Sayers Flora Ann Woodworth Emily Dow Partridge Eliza Maria Partridge Almera Johnson Lucy Walker Sarah Lawrence Maria Lawrence Helen Mar Kimball Hanna Ells Elvira Cowles Holmes Rhoda Richards Desdemona Fullmer Olive Frost Melissa Lott Nancy Winchester Fanny Young

[Elsie]

The bottom line (for me) is:

Who would you rather have move into your neighborhood? A group of muzzies, or a group of Mormons?

Nothing ETERNAL??

The bottom line (for GOD) is:

2 Peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some men count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

[Elsie]

All of those scriptures except the last three were wrote by Paul, who had the very same credentials as Joseph Smith had, which is he is his own witness.

So you're a fellow who does NOT believe that Paul's writings have any authority?

[Elsie]

The LDS is polytheistic, and teaching that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are three different gods, and that they also will become a god through following LDS commandments and rituals. And this is only the beginning.

I've heard that...

Jesus Christ is God’s Son, spiritually and physically.

He calls Him Father, He prays to Him.
We are to pray to Him, God the Father, in the name of Jesus Christ, His Son.
God’s voice was heard at Christ’s baptism, coming from Heaven while He was in the water. The Holy Sirit also descended. Three seperate entities/Gods.

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[Elsie]

Polytheistic is not my belief but will it send them to hell?

John 3:18
“He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

John 6:28-29
Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”
Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

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Will believing EXTRA things count against a person?

[Elsie]

True; but you quoted it.

[Elsie]

This thread is disgusting. And is not what FR is about.

Mormonism is disgusting.

Are you saying that FR should NOT be exposing disgusting things?

[stillonaroll]

As a child, my Mormon neighbors were--by far--the kindest and most generous folks in the neighborhood. As an adult, I've found Mormons to be excellent witnesses for their faith, more so than many attendees of mainline Christian denominations.

That being said, I do disagree profoundly with Mormon theology. My point is that others can learn from how Mormons treat other people in daily life.

[Elsie]

You have already posted on their white blond attractiveness, on this thread, at least once.

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Until 1981 2 Nephi 30:6, in the Book of Mormon, taught that dark-skinned Lamanites (Indians) would eventually experience a change in the color of their skin should they embrace the Book of Mormon. This passage of Mormon scripture read:

"...their scales of darkness shall begin to fall from their eyes; and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a white and a delightsome people."

However, in 1981, the LDS Church decided to change "the most correct book on earth" and switched the word "white" with the word "pure." Some Mormons insist that this was a clarification since the word was never meant to refer to a person with dark skin pigmentation who would magically turn white based upon a conversion to the Mormon gospel; rather, it is claimed that the change referred to a cleaner state of heart. This assumption is definitely not supported in the Book of Mormon since 2 Nephi 5:21 says,

"And he had caused the cursing to come upon them, yea, even a sore cursing, because of their iniquity. For behold, they had hardened their hearts against him, and they had become like unto a flint; wherefore, as they were white, and exceedingly fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a skin of blackness to come upon them."

Furthermore, we find another reference to a change in skin color in 3 Nephi 2:15. This passage reads:

"And their curse was taken from them, and their skin became white like unto the Nephites."

That the context refers to skin color is verified by a number of LDS leaders including Joseph Smith. Mormon author George D. Smith notes that Joseph Smith was given a revelation which foretold of a day when intermarriage with the Lamanites would produce a white and delightsome posterity. George Smith wrote, "This unpublished 17 July 1831 revelation was described three decades later in an 1861 letter from W.W. Phelps to Brigham Young quoting Joseph Smith: `It is my will, that in time, ye should take unto you wives of the Lamanites and Nephites, that their posterity, may become white, delightsome and just.' In the 8 December 1831 Ohio Star, Ezra Booth wrote of a revelation directing Mormon elders to marry with the `natives'" (Sunstone, November 1993, footnote #5, pg. 52).

Second LDS President Brigham Young stated in 1859, "You may inquire of the intelligent of the world whether they can tell why the aborigines of this country are dark, loathsome, ignorant, and sunken into the depths of degradation ...When the Lord has a people, he makes covenants with them and gives unto them promises: then, if they transgress his law, change his ordinances, and break his covenants he has made with them, he will put a mark upon them, as in the case of the Lamanites and other portions of the house of Israel; but by-and-by they will become a white and delightsome people" (Journal of Discourses 7:336).

At the October 1960 LDS Church Conference, Spencer Kimball utilized 2 Nephi 30:6 when he stated how the Indians "are fast becoming a white and delightsome people." He said, "The [Indian] children in the home placement program in Utah are often lighter than their brothers and sisters in the hogans on the reservation" (Improvement Era, December 1960, pp. 922-3).

During the same message Kimball referred to a 16-year-old Indian girl who was both LDS and "several shades lighter than her parents..." He went on to say, "These young members of the Church are changing to whiteness and to delightsomeness. One white elder jokingly said that he and his companion were donating blood regularly to the hospital in the hope that the process might be accelerated."

LDS writer George Edward Clark gives a similar account in his book entitled "Why I Believe." On page 129 he wrote, "The writer has been privileged to sit at table with several members of the Catawba tribe of Indians, whose reservation is near the north border of South Carolina. That tribe, or most of its people, are members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon). Those Indians, at least as many as I have observed, were white and delightsome, as white and fair as any group of citizens of our country. I know of no prophecy, ancient or modern, that has had a more literal fulfillment" (emphasis his).

It has also been taught in Mormonism that opposite repercussions could result when a white man abandoned his Mormon faith. For instance, the "Juvenile Instructor" (26:635) reads,

"From this it is very clear that the mark which was set upon the descendants of Cain was a skin of blackness, and there can be no doubt that this was the mark that Cain himself received; in fact, it has been noticed in our day that men who have lost the spirit of the Lord, and from whom his blessings have been withdrawn, have turned dark to such an extend as to excite the comments of all who have known them."

In 1857, Brigham Young declared that apostates would "become gray-haired, wrinkled, and black, just like the Devil" (Journal of Discourse 5:332).

Despite the comments from past Mormon leaders, skin color has nothing to do with a person's spirituality. To say 2 Nephi 30:6 was altered merely for clarification and had nothing to do with skin color is without merit. It was a false prophecy, nothing more, nothing less.

 

 

http://mormoncurtain.com/topic_whiteanddelightsome.html

[miss marmelstein]

Please stop posting to me. I am tired of this thread and while other people are pinging me on other threads I am missing them because of your endless posts. You are not going to change my mind on anything but then I don’t think your intention is to change my mind.

[Elsie]

Is there such a thing as "scripture" that is not inspired or holy?

Mormon 'scripture' contains the KJV of the bible (which they don't trust completely), the Book of Mormon (which doesn't contain hardly ANY Mormon doctrine), the Doctrines & Covenants (which does), and the Pearl of Great Price (Which contains the laughable Book of Abraham).

Allegedly GOD told Joseph Smith to RE-translate the KJV to get rid of the errors in it.

He did.

Salt Lake City Mormons do NOT consider IT to be 'scripture'!

Weird; eh??

[Elsie]

It is an odd name for a man, IMO, no offense intended, but there it is.

Lighten up; Frances.

[Elsie]

men tend to get fanatical whether it’s politics or religion.

Yeah, we do.

We tend to go to war even, so you mom's will have a home to teach the kids in.

[Elsie]

Please do not post any more religion criticism to me.

Why are you even IN this forum if it is such a provocation?

[Elsie]

Since you don’t like to reveal your denomination for some reason, can you tell us if you are a religious moderator at FR?

Yes; I can.

[Elsie]

No; I’m not.

These folk are a SPECIAL breed.

My temperament might tend to lean more toward Viking Kitty than Ghandi.

[miss marmelstein]

Please stop sending me posts. I already had to report you since you made a remark that I pass bad checks. I will report you each and every time if you continue.