To: boatbums; MamaB
No doubt there WOULD be Bible worshipers had we found the original autographs, I disagree with that -- Christians have always believed that what the various Holy books in the Bible contain are divinely inspired, but not that God dictated it and the authors wrote it word for word
This is, as the Bible consists of various books written over millenia, but the Koran dates (as per islamic belief) to a fixed period of time. And, the believe that it was copied word for word exactly as Al-illah dictated it. This means that to them it is holy of itself. Also they hold that it was created before time, because oftheir flawed understanding of John 1
But we know that the Word of God is Jesus Christ and HE existed before time itself. The bible as in the collection of books did not exist before time itself
853 posted on
07/30/2014 8:00:29 AM PDT by
Cronos
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To: Cronos
No doubt there WOULD be Bible worshipers had we found the original autographs,
I disagree with that -- Christians have always believed that what the various Holy books in the Bible contain are divinely inspired, but not that God dictated it and the authors wrote it word for word I was talking about "relics", Cronos. Do you not think original autographs wouldn't have been worshiped by some?
I don't think anyone imagines the written word of God existed before creation - written languages are relatively recent (within the last four or five thousand years), but the LOGOS has always existed. Jesus IS the Word made flesh. When we speak of the Bible, the written word of God, we believe that it not just contains Divine revelation, but that it IS inspired, God-breathed, and every word that is in there IS from God to mankind. I don't think we should be in the practice of deciding what is or what isn't. I believe in Verbal Plenary Inspiration:
The word plenary means "full" or "complete". Therefore, plenary verbal inspiration asserts that God inspired the complete text(s) of the Bible, from Genesis to Revelation, including both historical and doctrinal details. The word verbal affirms the idea that inspiration extends to the very words the writers chose. For example, in Acts 1:16 the Apostle Peter says "the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake" (KJV). Paul calls all scripture "God-breathed" in 2 Timothy 3:16 (referring to the Old Testament). Thus, the Holy Spirit guided the writers along (cf. 2 Peter 1:20-21) while allowing their own personalities and freedom to produce the Bible we have today. This view recognizes and asserts both the human and divine element within Scripture. This understanding has sometimes been compared and contrasted to the understanding of the two natures of Jesus. (http://www.theopedia.com/Inspiration_of_the_Bible)
931 posted on
07/30/2014 11:23:05 PM PDT by
boatbums
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