Posted on 07/25/2014 4:31:45 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
An April 2014 Urban Institute study predicts that if current marriage rates do not rebound, just 69 percent of Millennial women (and 65 percent of men) will marry by the age of 40. By contrast, in 1990, 91 percent of U.S.-born women had married by the age of 40.
Almost none of this retreat from marriage will be felt among college-educated white Americans. The majority of college-educated Millennials will marry and have their children in marriages that last until the death of one partner.
Meanwhile, the average American lives in a world where sex is plentiful but stable families are not, leading many a Millennial to conclude that there is little point in marriage at all. You can’t fail at what you don’t attempt.
Into this explosive disruption of the time-tested path to opportunity for America’s next generation comes a new marriage debate: Are evangelicals bad for marriage?
(Excerpt) Read more at nationalreview.com ...
RE: Article? There was an article connected to that headline?
Didn’t you click on the link?
Here it is:
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/383714/are-evangelicals-bad-marriage-maggie-gallagher
Thanks friend, That was sarcasm on my part. because of the posters on the thread who evidently didn’t read the article, or were unable to grasp the main points.
This is a hit piece against Evangelicals if ever I saw one.
The author is already disparaging Evangelicals.
If someone is going to poke a sharp stick in the eye of the Evangelicals, they have no basis for complaints when Evangelicals poke back.
The headline alone signals that
Be realistic. Most only seem to read the headline and excerpt, and this is a war zone due to the incessant promotion of papists promoting their elitist org and attacking Protestant and evangelical faith, and who seek ammo against them, esp. in the light of the fact that the fruit of Rome is overall much more liberal .
Thus if you post an article with the headline, "Are Evangelicals Bad for Marriage?," you can expect a reaction akin to posting, "Are Catholics Bad for Marriage?"
But reading the article, we see that "evangelical" refers to those
"who continue to try to link not only children and marriage but also sex and marriage. The red-family model [which] abhors abortion, embraces abstinence education, worries about pushing contraception for unmarried teens (at least), and discourages divorce. And as
"divorce rates are higher in red states than in blue states. Conservative Protestant family values, they conclude, are bad for marriage: The blue-family model, Carbone and Cahn argue, is more successful at protecting marriage."
And thus by linking conservative values to faith and then to divorce rates it is really is saying that liberals are better at marriage. Thus liberal District of Columbia and MA (1+2 in lowest divorce rate) are better for marriage than Nevada and Oklahoma (the highest)*. But such marriages which product liberal 1.7 children families are bad for the nation. .
And of course, when people just cohabit in fornication, there is no marriage and thus no divorce.
However, race and economic factors are highly determinative. Lowest income helps one realize their need for God, and is where religious faith is strongest.
And broken down by race and ethnicity, the study found Asian women have the lowest first divorce rate at 10 divorces per 1,000 women in a first marriage. The first divorce rates of white and Hispanic women were similar at 16.3 and 18.1, respectively. African-American women have substantially higher rates of first divorce compared to all other racial and ethnic groups, at 30.4 divorces per 1,000 women in a first marriage...
The association between education and divorce is also curvilinear. The least (no high school diploma or GED) and the highest (college degree) educated women share the lowest rate of first divorce, with 14.4 and 14.2 per 1,000, respectively. - http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/11/111103161830.htm?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
Meanwhile, as the article points out,
Charles E. Stokes, Amber Lapp, and David Lapp looked at divorce risk among religiously affiliated people who marry “early” (ages 18 to 26) and found that for both conservative Protestants and Catholics, church attendance (but not affiliation) dramatically reduces divorce.
Moreover [not in article], those who identify themselves as being conservative on social and political matters lower divorce rates (28%) than those liberal on social and political matters (37%). — http://www.barna.org/family-kids-articles/42-new-marriage-and-divorce-statistics-released
As regards Catholic versus Evangelical, this article attributes the higher divorce rate to "encouraging early family formation, less education," and which thus attacks conservative Catholics.
Meanwhile Catholics use contraception at a rate close to evangelicals (who did miss the boat on this), and as regards divorce rates,
the percentage of percentage of adults Protestants who have been married and divorced is 34% versus 28% for Catholics, while Evangelicals were at 26%. Atheists or agnostic were at 30% (only 65% were ever married, vs. 84% for born-again Christians) while those aligned with a non-Christian faith were at 38%. The largest disparity (17%) relative to divorce was between high and low income levels (22% to 39%). — http://www.barna.org/family-kids-articles/42-new-marriage-and-divorce-statistics-released
In addition, considering the wide scope of possible reasons why a marriage may be annulled, as an est. 400,000 marriages have been annulled since 1970 (http://articles.philly.com/1986-05-08/news/26049605_1_annulments-divorced-catholics-marriage), then how many RCs today are possibly in invalid marriages, though canon law presumes all marriages are valid until proven invalid?
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The following lists the number of divorces annually per 1,000 population in each state:
| State | Marriage rate | Divorce rate[1] | ||||||||||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1999 | 2000 | 2006 | 2008 | 2010 | 2011 | 1999 | 2000 | 2006 | 2008 | 2010 | 2011 | |
| District of Columbia | 8.2 | 6.1 | 6.6 | 4.9 | 6.2 | 5.1 | 4.5 | 3.2 | 3.6 | 3.2 | 2.9 | 2.4 |
| Massachusetts | 7.9 | 7.1 | 6.2 | 5.8 | 6.2 | 5.9 | 2.8 | 2.2 | 2.5 | 2.5 | 2.4 | 2.5 |
| Georgia | 10.3 | 8.4 | 7.8 | 6.8 | 6.1 | 6.5 | 5.5 | 5.1 | 4.1 | 3.3 | 3.1 | 2.5 |
| Illinois | 8.8 | 6.9 | 7.0 | 6.9 | 7.2 | 6.6 | 3.8 | 3.2 | 3.3 | 3.2 | 3.2 | 2.9 |
| North Dakota | 7.5 | 7.1 | 6.6 | 7.2 | 6.5 | 6.8 | 3.6 | 3.4 | 4.4 | 3.4 | 2.9 | 3.0 |
| Pennsylvania | 7.1 | 6.2 | 6.1 | 6.0 | 5.8 | 5.7 | 3.3 | 3.2 | 3.1 | 3.1 | 3.1 | 3.1 |
| Minnesota | 7.7 | 7.0 | 6.8 | 6.8 | 6.6 | 6.5 | 3.5 | 3.4 | 3.2 | 3.2 | 3.2 | 3.1 |
| Iowa | 9.0 | 7.7 | 7.9 | 6.9 | 7.1 | 6.9 | 3.9 | 3.7 | 3.3 | 3.3 | 3.3 | 3.1 |
| Wisconsin | 7.9 | 7.0 | 6.7 | 6.7 | 6.5 | 6.3 | 3.6 | 3.4 | 3.2 | 3.2 | 3.2 | 3.2 |
| Rhode Island | 8.1 | 7.3 | 7.5 | 7.6 | 8.1 | 7.7 | 3.7 | 3.6 | 2.7 | 2.9 | 3.1 | 3.2 |
| Connecticut | 7.9 | 6.6 | 5.8 | 5.7 | 5.4 | 5.7 | 3.2 | 2.9 | 3.0 | 3.3 | 3.2 | 3.3 |
| South Dakota | 11.1 | 9.9 | 9.1 | 9.4 | 8.9 | 8.8 | 3.7 | 3.9 | 3.7 | 3.5 | 3.3 | 3.3 |
| New Jersey | 7.6 | 6.5 | 5.9 | 6.0 | 6.4 | 6.0 | 3.0 | 3.0 | 3.0 | 3.0 | 3.3 | 3.4 |
| Maryland | 9.7 | 8.4 | 7.5 | 7.5 | 7.0 | 7.1 | 3.4 | 3.0 | 3.2 | 3.3 | 2.9 | 3.4 |
| New York | 8.6 | 8.0 | 7.3 | 7.1 | 7.6 | 7.3 | 3.2 | 3.0 | 3.3 | 3.0 | 3.5 | 3.4 |
| South Carolina | 15.9 | 11.9 | 10.2 | 10.6 | 9.9 | 9.3 | 4.5 | 3.9 | 3.8 | 3.8 | 3.6 | 3.4 |
| Delaware | 8.4 | 7.3 | 6.7 | 6.5 | 6.5 | 6.4 | 4.4 | 5.0 | 4.5 | 3.9 | 3.9 | 3.5 |
| Kansas | 9.2 | 8.5 | 7.1 | 8.3 | 7.5 | 7.3 | 5.0 | 4.1 | 3.4 | 3.6 | 3.4 | 3.6 |
| Nebraska | 8.0 | 7.3 | 7.5 | 7.6 | 7.9 | 7.5 | 4.0 | 3.8 | 3.7 | 3.7 | 3.6 | 3.6 |
| Hawaii | 16.4 | 15.7 | 18.9 | 20.6 | 19.6 | 20.7 | 4.6 | 4.6 | 3.8 | 3.9 | 4.0 | 3.7 |
| Michigan | 8.2 | 7.3 | 6.8 | 6.7 | 6.6 | 6.5 | 4.3 | 4.1 | 3.8 | 3.9 | 3.9 | 3.8 |
| Texas | 10.5 | 9.9 | 9.1 | 9.4 | 9.1 | 8.4 | 5.5 | 5.2 | 3.8 | 4.0 | 4.0 | 3.9 |
| Ohio | 9.0 | 8.0 | 7.8 | 7.8 | 7.2 | 7.0 | 4.7 | 4.3 | 3.9 | 4.2 | 4.0 | 4.0 |
| Montana | 8.6 | 7.6 | 7.4 | 7.3 | 7.1 | 7.2 | 5.1 | 4.8 | 2.8 | 4.2 | 4.2 | 4.0 |
| Missouri | 9.6 | 8.3 | 8.1 | 7.8 | 7.5 | 7.3 | 5.1 | 5.0 | 4.4 | 4.5 | 4.2 | 4.0 |
| Utah | 11.2 | 10.7 | 9.6 | 10.8 | 10.2 | 10.4 | 5.1 | 4.4 | 4.0 | 4.3 | 4.2 | 4.1 |
| Virginia | 11.4 | 10.2 | 9.2 | 8.8 | 8.8 | 8.6 | 4.4 | 4.3 | 4.4 | 4.3 | 4.2 | 4.2 |
| Vermont | 10.9 | 10.3 | 10.0 | 10.0 | 9.8 | 9.7 | 4.5 | 4.7 | 4.4 | 4.1 | 4.3 | 4.2 |
| New Hampshire | 9.5 | 8.3 | 7.9 | 9.4 | 8.4 | 8.3 | 4.7 | 4.2 | 5.1 | 4.8 | 4.4 | 4.3 |
| New Mexico | 8.8 | 8.8 | 8.0 | 8.0 | 7.6 | 7.9 | 4.9 | 6.6 | 4.6 | 5.1 | 4.9 | 4.4 |
| North Carolina | 7.8 | 8.4 | 8.5 | 8.2 | 7.5 | 7.7 | 5.1 | 5.0 | 4.6 | 4.5 | 4.6 | 4.5 |
| Washington | 9.5 | 7.7 | 7.2 | 6.9 | 7.0 | 6.5 | 5.9 | 5.4 | 5.0 | 4.6 | 4.5 | 4.6 |
| Oregon | 8.9 | 8.1 | 7.6 | 7.6 | 7.5 | 7.1 | 5.5 | 4.7 | 4.6 | 4.8 | 4.8 | 4.6 |
| Alaska | 10.2 | 9.0 | 8.6 | 8.9 | 8.1 | 8.3 | 5.5 | 5.0 | 5.0 | 3.9 | 4.3 | 4.6 |
| Maine | 9.7 | 8.7 | 8. | 8.8 | 8.6 | 8.4 | 4.3 | 4.4 | 5.1 | 5.0 | 4.7 | 4.6 |
| Arizona | 10.0 | 8.8 | 8.2 | 7.5 | 7.5 | 6.6 | 6.9 | 6.2 | 4.6 | 4.6 | 4.0 | 4.7 |
| Mississippi | 9.4 | 7.9 | 7.8 | 6.9 | 6.5 | 6.4 | 5.5 | 4.8 | 5.0 | 5.0 | 5.0 | 4.9 |
| Florida | 10.9 | 9.9 | 8.7 | 8.9 | 9.2 | 9.4 | 6.3 | 5.5 | 5.1 | 5.1 | 5.2 | 5.1 |
| Tennessee | 13.9 | 15.5 | 14.7 | 15.5 | 13.5 | 13.1 | 6.5 | 6.2 | 5.8 | 5.9 | 5.2 | 5.1 |
| West Virginia | 7.2 | 6.1 | 7.5 | 8.7 | 7.9 | 8.1 | 5.3 | 5.2 | 4.9 | 5.1 | 5.2 | 5.2 |
| Kentucky | 13.5 | 12.2 | 10.9 | 9.8 | 9.0 | 9.0 | 5.8 | 5.9 | 5.5 | 5.1 | 5.1 | 5.2 |
| Idaho | 13.9 | 13.1 | 12.1 | 10.8 | 11.2 | 10.9 | 6.5 | 5.8 | 5.4 | 5.5 | 5.3 | 5.3 |
| Wyoming | 10.7 | 10.6 | 9.9 | 10.0 | 10.1 | 9.5 | 6.6 | 6.6 | 5.7 | 5.8 | 5.8 | 5.4 |
| Alabama | 10.6 | 9.8 | 10.8 | 10.1 | 9.4 | 9.8 | 6.1 | 6.0 | 5.7 | 5.5 | 5.4 | 5.4 |
| Arkansas | 15.3 | 14.4 | 14.8 | 15.4 | 14.3 | 14.3 | 6.9 | 6.3 | 6.2 | 6.4 | 6.2 | 6.2 |
| Nevada | 99.0 | 85.2 | 82.3 | 72.2 | 69.7 | 67.4 | 11.4 | 7.8 | 7.8 | 9.9 | 6.3 | 7.1 |
| Oklahoma | 10.6 | 8.6 | 6.8 | 7.7 | 6.6 | – | – | – | – | – | – | – |
| California[2] | 7.9 | 6.3 | 6.4 | 5.8 | 6.5 | 6.2 | 4.3 | – | – | – | – | – |
| Indiana | 9.6 | 8.6 | 8.1 | 7.9 | 7.9 | 7.8 | – | – | – | – | – | – |
| Colorado | 9.8 | 9.0 | 8.2 | 8.3 | 8.2 | 7.9 | 5.5 | 4.8 | 4.7 | 4.7 | 4.7 | – |
| Louisiana | 9.6 | 9.3 | 9.1 | 9.1 | 8.4 | 8.2 | – | – | – | – | – | – |
See above, and also ask, which kind of Christian denomination in America have marriages that are proven the best for America and the world?
It is as representing conservatives vs, liberals.
Related:
Black women are more likely to have a cohabitation end, and less likely to marry by age 30, likely to have a shorter marriage if they do marry for both first and second marriage, less likely to formally divorce if they marry then separate, less likely to cohabitate after a divorce, less likely to remarry, and less likely to have a successful second marriage. - http://www.psychpage.com/family/mod_couples_thx/cdc.html
Also,
Median Household Income by State[45]
| Rank | State | 2009 | 2008 | 2007 | 2004–2006 | Cost of Living Index[46] | 2009 Data adjusted for COL base period |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5 | Hawaii | $64,098 | $67,214 | $63,746 | $60,681 | 165.56 | $38,716 |
| District of Columbia | $59,290 | $57,936 | $54,317 | $47,221 (2005)[47] | 139.92 | $42,374 | |
| 4 | Alaska | $66,953 | $68,460 | $64,333 | $57,639 | 132.64 | $50,477 |
| 9 | California | $58,931 | $61,021 | $59,948 | $53,770 | 132.56 | $44,456 |
| 3 | Connecticut | $67,034 | $68,595 | $65,967 | $59,972 | 130.22 | $51,477 |
| 2 | New Jersey | $68,342 | $70,378 | $67,035 | $64,169 | 128.47 | $53,197 |
| 15 | New York | $54,659 | $56,033 | $53,514 | $48,201 | 128.29 | $42,606 |
| 1 | Maryland | $69,272 | $70,545 | $68,080 | $62,372 | 124.81 | $55,502 |
| 16 | Rhode Island | $54,119 | $55,701 | $53,568 | $52,003 | 123.25 | $43,910 |
| 20 | Vermont | $51,618 | $52,104 | $49,907 | $51,622 | 120.38 | $42,879 |
| 6 | Massachusetts | $64,081 | $65,401 | $62,365 | $56,236 | 117.8 | $54,398 |
| 7 | New Hampshire | $60,567 | $63,731 | $62,369 | $60,489 | 116.68 | $51,909 |
| 31 | Maine | $45,734 | $46,581 | $45,888 | $45,040 | 116.42 | $39,284 |
| 24 | Oregon | $48,457 | $50,169 | $48,730 | $45,485 | 110.47 | $43,864 |
| 11 | Washington | $56,548 | $58,078 | $55,591 | $53,439 | 103.98 | $54,384 |
| 23 | Arizona | $48,745 | $50,958 | $49,889 | $46,729 | 103.73 | $46,992 |
| 10 | Delaware | $56,860 | $57,989 | $54,610 | $52,214 | 102.4 | $55,527 |
| 12 | Minnesota | $55,616 | $57,288 | $55,082 | $57,363 | 102.23 | $54,403 |
| 13 | Colorado | $55,430 | $56,993 | $55,212 | $54,039 | 102.23 | $54,221 |
| 18 | Nevada | $53,341 | $56,361 | $55,062 | $50,819 | 101.39 | $52,610 |
| 22 | Pennsylvania | $49,520 | $50,713 | $48,576 | $47,791 | 100.67 | $49,190 |
| 43 | Montana | $42,322 | $43,654 | $43,531 | $38,629 | 100 | $42,322 |
| 41 | New Mexico | $43,028 | $43,508 | $41,452 | $40,827 | 98.88 | $43,515 |
| 39 | South Carolina | $44,625 | $43,329 | $40,822 | 98.71 | $42,997 | |
| 19 | Wyoming | $52,664 | $53,207 | $51,731 | $47,227 | 98.66 | $53,379 |
| 36 | South Dakota | $45,043 | $46,032 | $43,424 | $44,624 | 98.53 | $45,715 |
| 38 | Florida | $44,736 | $47,778 | $47,804 | $44,448 | 98.39 | $45,468 |
| 8 | Virginia | $59,330 | $61,233 | $59,562 | $55,108 | 97.66 | $60,752 |
| 21 | Wisconsin | $49,993 | $52,094 | $50,578 | $48,874 | 96.45 | $51,833 |
| 40 | North Carolina | $43,674 | $46,549 | $44,670 | $42,061 | 96.21 | $45,394 |
| 42 | Louisiana | $42,492 | $43,733 | $40,926 | $37,943 | 96.15 | $44,193 |
| 17 | Illinois | $53,966 | $56,235 | $54,124 | $49,280 | 96.08 | $56,168 |
| 27 | North Dakota | $47,827 | $45,685 | $43,753 | $43,753 | 95.91 | $49,867 |
| 34 | Michigan | $45,255 | $48,591 | $47,950 | $47,064 | 95.25 | $47,512 |
| 14 | Utah | $55,117 | $56,633 | $55,109 | $55,179 | 95.15 | $57,926 |
| 49 | West Virginia | $37,435 | $37,989 | $37,060 | $37,227 | 94.4 | $39,656 |
| 32 | Indiana | $45,424 | $47,966 | $47,448 | $44,806 | 94.19 | $48,226 |
| 26 | Iowa | $48,044 | $48,980 | $47,292 | $47,489 | 93.98 | $51,122 |
| 33 | Ohio | $45,395 | $47,988 | $46,597 | $45,837 | 93.85 | $48,370 |
| 37 | Idaho | $44,926 | $47,576 | $46,253 | $46,395 | 93.04 | $48,287 |
| 46 | Alabama | $40,489 | $42,666 | $40,554 | $38,473 | 92.74 | $43,659 |
| 50 | Mississippi | $36,646 | $37,790 | $36,338 | $35,261 | 92.26 | $39,720 |
| 29 | Georgia | $47,590 | $50,861 | $49,136 | $46,841 | 92.21 | $51,610 |
| 35 | Missouri | $45,229 | $46,867 | $45,114 | $44,651 | 91.66 | $49,344 |
| 28 | Kansas | $47,817 | $50,177 | $47,451 | $44,264 | 91.31 | $52,368 |
| 30 | Nebraska | $47,357 | $49,693 | $47,085 | $48,126 | 91.09 | $51,989 |
| 25 | Texas | $48,259 | $50,043 | $47,548 | $43,425 | 91.04 | $53,009 |
| 48 | Arkansas | $40,489 | $41,393 | $42,229 | $41,679 | 90.61 | $41,743 |
| 45 | Oklahoma | $41,664 | $42,822 | $41,567 | $40,001 | 90.09 | $46,247 |
| 44 | Tennessee | $41,725 | $43,614 | $42,367 | $40,676 | 89.49 | $46,625 |
| 47 | Kentucky | $40,072 | $41,538 | $40,267 | $38,466 | 89.21 | $44,919 |
| United States | $50,221 | $52,029 | $50,740 | $46,242 (2005)[47] | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States#Income_by_state |
Thank you for your useful information.
Indeed it is heavy on the Catholic side, due to certain RCs misusing FR as a Catholic news and apologetics site.
These numbers are false. 8 out of 10 white Protestants voted for Romney...95% of black Protestants voted for Obama...
Not counting blacks would eliminate 6% of evangelicals (15% of blacks), and 5% of Catholics.
"let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath:" (James 1:19)
And thank God we have and can post it. So far.
“Neither is hard work, political awareness, community involvement or morality.”
Neither is what used to be known as “The American Dream” — home ownership, etc. IIRC, studies have shown that this age group is primarily focused on the technology they can own and having the latest gizmo.
Actually I don’t see it relating to denominations at all.
I see it as more relating to the couple’s SERIOUSNESS about their faith.
Those who attend church regularly have a significantly lower divorce rate than those who don’t REGARDLESS of denomination.
Amen, Daniel. They try to make Catholics instead of followers of Christ. I do not understand that attitude at all.
That aspect is true, and today we might vote for Pharisees due to moral values, and if divorce rate was the criteria for the right religion, then the the faith of Asian culture would seem to win.
"For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:" (Romans 2:14)
"And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?" (Romans 2:27)
While having many conservative values alone is not what defines true faith, yet having overall contrary values constitutes wrong faith. One can be a conservative without being a Christian, but one cannot be a Christian and not be a conservative in Scriptural conformity in faith and morals.
And while SS is attacked by RCs are promoting immorality, yet the group that is the most commitment to Scripture as literally being the Word of God are the most conservative btwn the two.
Evangelical Protestants are the most politically conservative Christian tradition. Within each tradition, those with literal views of the Bible are more politically conservative than is their tradition overall. Catholics that are Biblical literalists (11.8%) hold more conservative political views than the Catholic population in general does. The Biblical literalist Catholic is as politically conservative as the Biblical literalist who is Evangelical (47.8%) or Mainline Protestant. (11.2%) American Piety in the 21st Century, Baylor Institute for Studies of Religion http://www.baylor.edu/content/services/document.php/33304.pdf
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