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To: CynicalBear
>>That verse about enduring to the end is for those in the end, going through the tribulation, not those of the church age.<< That “rightly dividing” thing gets a lot of people in trouble with scripture doesn’t it? Also when they think their “church” has superseded the nation of Israel all types of error occurs.

Do I understand you to write that you think there are two gospels, one for a "church age" and another for "the tribulation." If so, did you receive this teaching from a particular denomination/sect or come up with it independently ? How much of the book of Revelation, I wonder, are you saying does not apply ?


379 posted on 07/19/2014 11:29:55 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981
>>Do I understand you to write that you think there are two gospels, one for a "church age" and another for "the tribulation."<<

Not two gospels. One gospel with different dispensation just as Paul taught.

Ephesians 3:1 For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles, 2 If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to you-ward:

God through the prophet Daniel allotted 490 years to Israel as a chosen nation. There are still 7 years of that time left having been interrupted by Israel’s rejection of Jesus as the Messiah at which time God opened the plan of salvation to the Gentiles. When that time comes to an end as Paul says God will resume His dealing with Israel for that last seven years which will be the tribulation period.

Romans 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

>>If so, did you receive this teaching from a particular denomination/sect or come up with it independently ?<<

It comes directly from scripture. Adhering to any “denomination” teachings in whole is a very dangerous thing. Every one of them as far as I have been able to ascertain have strayed from scripture in one area or another.

>>How much of the book of Revelation, I wonder, are you saying does not apply ?<<

The entire book of Revelation applies.

Catholics and others who adhere to the belief that the “church” has superseded the nation of Israel in God’s plan will never be able to understand much of scripture and surely not much at all of prophecy.

BTW Adding those passages may have made you feel good but don’t do anything to either support your position or add to the understanding of the subject you asked about.

385 posted on 07/19/2014 12:29:07 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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