I wish I knew how to post pictures, tried many times and as I say I am a little dense. I’d like to show you a picture of a couple of my goats..They aren’t sissy’s either, especially during breeding season. I alway had to check to see who was in what pasture. My big one could get real mean during that month...His horns were 44 inches from tip to tip. Took me and hubby to take him down for hoof clipping. One shearing we got 44 pounds of mohair from him, that was a record. Poor goats looked great before they lost all their mohair, then they just looked kinda sad...