“The Catholic Church official position is that the Muslims serve the same god as they do. They both justify killing people they consider heretics, thus my question to you about them serving the same god. Maybe you didnt realize that the Catholic Church says they serve the same god.”
Catherine, what CB is doing is wrong. I cannot label it properly because my post would be deleted. What CB is alluding to is the fact that Christians, Muslims, AND JEWS, all claim to follow the God of Abraham. The Catechism says this:
“841 The Church’s relationship with the Muslims. “The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; *******these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day.”********330
In other words, the Catechism recognizes that Christians, Jews AND MUSLIMS, all PROFESS to believe and follow the God of Abraham.
The reason why I think CB is being [I’m not allowed to say it here or else my post will be deleted] here is that she excludes Jews and focuses only on Muslims - and links them (alone) to Catholics. Jews, however, killed those whom they believed to be heretics, blasphemers, etc. Again, see Exodus 32. And wasn’t Jesus supposedly condemned for blasphemy? Yet, CB’s religious [can’t say it; post would be deleted] won’t [can’t say it; post will get deleted] her to lump together Jews and Muslims when she is attacking Catholics. She probably would do it if she were talking about Pharisees, however.
And what about the fact that Protestants sometimes killed those they condemned as heretics? CB skips right over those cases, of course.
We are not discussing Jews here, although they indeed serve the same God but deny that Jesus is the Messiah. Muslims may claim whatever they want. The god they describe and worship in no way is the God of scripture.
>>CB skips right over those cases, of course.<<
If we were discussing them I would condemn them as well. Protestants are after all the daughters of the Catholic Church having come out of her and retained many of her errors.
Now here is the exact 841.
# 841 The Churchs relationship with the Muslims. The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankinds judge on the last day.[330]
The first place are the Muslims. Not the Jews, nor other Christian denominations but the Muslims!!
I see your point that the Muslims profess to hold the faith of Abraham, but directly afterward it says "together with us they adore the one merciful God."
That is not the case.
"The reason why I think CB is being [Im not allowed to say it here or else my post will be deleted] here is that she excludes Jews and focuses only on Muslims - and links them (alone) to Catholics. Jews, however, killed those whom they believed to be heretics, blasphemers, etc. Again, see Exodus 32."
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Jews can't be lumped with Muslims. It's true that the Jewish people believe the Messiah is yet to come, but we share the same Old Testament. Scripture says we are grafted onto THEIR branch.
Islam is a bastard religion, a murderous blood cult whose chief aim is world domination.
"And wasnt Jesus supposedly condemned for blasphemy?"
You can't be serious. Can you? Tell me you're not.
"And what about the fact that Protestants sometimes killed those they condemned as heretics? CB skips right over those cases, of course."
That was just as wrong. But if you can find a Protestant on this forum, or anywhere else, who celebrates that kind of murder as right and praises God for it, I'll buy you a bag of M&Ms.
There is a big difference between what is said and claimed.
Yes, muslims CLAIM to worship the God of Abraham.
The CCC however, states that Catholics and muslims DO worship the same God of Abraham.