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To: CatherineofAragon

“Vladimir, what I don’t like is the sight of someone praising God for mass murder.”

Wait. First, I think you need to check yourself right there. No one is “praising God for mass murder.” That’s number 1. Number 2 is that we aren’t even talking about mass murder if we’re talking about the inquisition. You might not agree, but your opinion doesn’t square with the historical facts. If you want to consider it “judicial murder”, fine. But that still doesn’t cut it.

Next, I think you had better read the Bible. Try Exodus 32. Was that murder? Whether it was 3,000 or 23,000 (as Paul says) it was a lot of people cut to pieces in one day for worshiping the golden calf. And what came of that? “And Moses said, “Today you have been ordained for the service of the LORD, each one at the cost of his son and of his brother, so that he might bestow a blessing upon you this day.”” The Jewish priesthood came out of that bloodbath. Are you sure you know as much about this topic as you think you do?

“Look, you can spin it any way you want, but the right thing to do would be for the Catholics on the board to call out and condemn such insanity.”

So you condemn Moses and the Levites, right? I see plenty of Catholics on FR saying they wish there had been no executions of heretics, but they understand that they were a product of their time - and that is the case. Trying to commit suicide was a capital offense in England a two or three centuries ago. Does that make sense to you? Does it? No, but that was what was considered sensible at the time no matter how ridiculous we think it is now.

“There’s just no whitewashing it.”

There’s nothing that needs to be whitewashed and we wouldn’t whitewash it if we could. It was what it was AT THAT TIME. I lose no sleep over it, yet wished it was never deemed necessary, but heretics made it seem necessary to the orthodox trying to hold society together. I also disagree with the internment of the Japanese in WWII - but it seemed necessary to people at that time. I wouldn’t be surprised if we have to intern Muslims in the future after a Muslim sets off a nuke in a major American city. Will that be right?


586 posted on 07/15/2014 2:24:55 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998; CatherineofAragon
>> Try Exodus 32. Was that murder?<<

Whoa! You’re saying that God told the Catholic Church to kill those people? May I remind you that Moses pleaded with God to not have those people killed? Then before he had them killed he said “Thus saith the Lord God of Israel,”. It was God who commanded those who opposed Him be killed. Catholic hubris is stunning.

588 posted on 07/15/2014 2:36:24 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: vladimir998; JPX2011

Oh, get over yourself, vladimir. Don’t tell me to “check” anything, all right?

If you have questions about what was said, go back and read the post in question.

Moses acted on a direct commandment from God. I’m not going to compare him, God’s beloved prophet,or the events of Exodus (27, actually) to anything else.

Jpx2011 should be called out. You should be doing just that.


589 posted on 07/15/2014 2:37:02 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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