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To: CynicalBear; verga; metmom

“The belief that OSAS is “ludicrous” demands that you believe that man is responsible for and thereby earns his own salvation. Is that what you believe?”

Straw man. All that denial of the heretical doctrine of OSAS would imply is admission that we can sin our way out of a saved condition - in other words we reject Christ and the gifts He has given us in exchange for worldly pleasures. It in no way implies that a man believes he can earn his salvation. Dan Corner, a Protestant who absolutely denies OSAS, in no way believes he earns his own salvation. And I agree with entirely on that point. Thus, your point is clearly a straw man as it is not only logically flawed but demonstratively proved false by actual beliefs held by people who reject OSAS.


514 posted on 07/15/2014 11:03:21 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998; verga; metmom

Give it up Vlad. Either man is responsible for his own salvation or God is. Take your pick. If man is then he deserves the credit. If man is then it’s shaky at best. If it’s all God then when He said no one can snatch them out of His hand we can be assured that if we are once saved we are always saved. What you or anyone else “feels” or “believes” is irrelevant. It’s what scripture says.


518 posted on 07/15/2014 11:23:47 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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