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Protestants: It's time to come back
http://littlecatholicbubble.blogspot.com ^ | September 9, 2011 | Leila Miller

Posted on 07/14/2014 9:20:18 AM PDT by NKP_Vet

To my Protestant brothers and sisters:

It's time to come back to Mother Church. We want you, we need you, we love you.

I've spent a lot of time in dialogue with activist atheists recently, and the direction we are going is not pretty. We are witnessing a rapid cultural decline into amorality.

Satan seeks the ruin of souls through the destruction of marriage and family, and the quickest route to his goal is the profanation of sex. The truth and meaning of human sexuality is our era's cultural fault line, and unfortunately, Protestant denominations have been tumbling into its widening crevace at an alarming pace.

The first cracks denying the sacred nature of human sexuality began mere decades ago with the first tentative acceptance of contraception by a Christian church (the Anglicans). After 1,900+ years of unbroken Christian teaching on the immorality of contraception (including 400+ years of unbroken Protestant teaching), a moral evil was suddenly declared good. The entirety of Protestantism, although horrified at first, soon followed suit.

"Woe to those who call evil good" -- Isaiah 5:20

Then came other issues -- sterilization, masturbation, abortion, fornication and cohabiting, homosexual activity and homosexual "marriage". One by one, Protestant communities have broken from Christian teaching and sided with the secular culture. Many Protestant communities do not accept all the aforementioned evils as good, of course, and some are making a valiant attempt to fight one or more of them. However, there is no guarantee that those denominations won't eventually accept other sexual sins in the same way they accepted contraception, sterilization and masturbation. A majority vote by church leaders could launch an unsuspecting Protestant from the Spirit of the Gospel right into the spirit of the age -- the Planned Parenthood age.

Look where you are standing. Unless you stand with the Catholic Church, you may already have one foot off the cliff.

How to guarantee that you'll stand firmly on the ground of moral Truth? Come back home to the Catholic Church.

For over two thousand years:

The Catholic Church has never taught that contraception is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that sterilization is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that masturbation is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that abortion is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that fornication is a moral good, and she never will. The Catholic Church has never taught that homosexual activity is a moral good, and she never will.

The moral teachings of the Church have never changed, and they never will.

Human sexuality is transcendent, life-giving and sacred, and the Catholic Church will teach that Truth till the last day.

Dear Protestant, a church with a changing morality is a church built on shifting sand. If you want to build your life and eternity on something solid, build it on the Rock of Peter. Don't be carried about by every wind of social change; come back to the Catholic Church and stand strong with us -- one united Body as Jesus intended.

America may not survive many more generations at the rate we are going, but the Church and her teachings will stand regardless, speaking the same Truths, undisturbed, till the end of time. Believe me, it's a really nice place to be in a storm. Extremely peaceful.

So, come on. You'll like it here, living in peace and joy and certainty. It's your rightful home anyway.

Come back to Holy Mother Church. It really is time.


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To: CynicalBear
And giving man credit for everything God should be getting credit for.

If you read the Catechism, you might be surprised.

Grace and Justification

“There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.”

― Fulton J. Sheen


241 posted on 07/14/2014 4:34:21 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: terycarl
in the year....say 1326, was there a Christiaan on Earth that was not a Catholic???

If the so-called Christian was not born-again, he or she was not part of Christ's church.

Your membership in a church does not guarantee you anything. Not Righteousness and not heaven.

God will only allow those into heaven that have been forgiven and that are born-again, not if they are members of your church or mine.
242 posted on 07/14/2014 4:41:28 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
>>If you read the Catechism, you might be surprised.<<

Catholics walk talk is louder than their talk talk.

243 posted on 07/14/2014 4:41:54 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: CynicalBear

“You claim there is not other infallible source for what the apostles taught.”

Show me where I claim that. You will fail. Honestly why do you keep making these things up? I know EXACTLY WHAT I DID AND DID NOT WRITE. And never did I “claim there is not other infallible source for what the apostles taught.”

1) You’re leaving out a number of words in what was said - originally by you.

2) You’re assuming that my demand for evidence that I said one thing means i believe the opposite or something close to it. This is a terrible mistake on your part and shows a complete lack of understanding of why you must only impute to people what they actually said or what their words MUST MEAN. Protestant anti-Catholics absolutely stink at either one of those because many can barely read and other are simply too stupid to know what they are actually attacking since they have relied - often for their entire lives - on false information from other anti-Catholics as to what Catholics believe.

“Paul said anything they didn’t teach was to be considered “accursed”.”

And yet you believe in sola scriptura - which they NEVER taught and sola fide which they also never taught.

“What you teach is therefore accursed.”

Not at all, but what you teach is as mentioned above.

“Your teachings accursed and your credibility a zero.”

No. The Church’s teachings are sacred and true as always and my credibility has not suffered in the least and is far above zero. You on the other hand have been shown to make things up - repeatedly - out of thin air.

“Not a good track record there vlad.”

CynicalBear, dishonesty is the real problem Protestant anti-Catholics suffer from. It’s a shame they don’t seem to see lying as wrong.


244 posted on 07/14/2014 4:42:36 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998
“Where in the Bible does it say we should look only to the Bible for all truths?”

This is one of the most lame arguments of all...

Joh 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

We as Christians know that God's word, the scriptures is truth...We know that...We have no evidence whatsoever that God's words exist outside of scripture...

There are religions who say they have God's truth outside of scriptures??? Certainly...They are a dime a dozen...Yours included...

We only need one proof and yet we have dozens...Your religion claims Mary was/is sinless...God says ALL have sinned...Therefore we know with certainty that your religion is a faker...A counterfeit...

Your tradition contradicts the words of God...That makes any statement by your religion pertaining to the scriptures irrelevant...

245 posted on 07/14/2014 4:50:04 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: vladimir998
>>And never did I “claim there is not other infallible source for what the apostles taught.”<<

Of course you didn’t. We all saw that. There is no other infallible source for what the apostles taught. Scripture is the only infallible source for what the apostles taught. It’s Sola Scriptura! Thank you for proving our point!

246 posted on 07/14/2014 4:52:46 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: metmom
It's interesting to note that the Catholics are always calling on people to *cross the Tiber*, to come back to the *mother church*, etc.

HaHa...That's where they failed...They crossed the Tiber...Luther tried to get them to come back to this side but they refused...Now they want to drag the rest of us down with them...

247 posted on 07/14/2014 4:53:39 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: vladimir998

Goodbye!


248 posted on 07/14/2014 4:54:58 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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To: metmom
What saves us is HIM, not it.

HE founded IT to make it easier and more organized to follow HIM rather than 20,000 or so diverse opinions as to what HE had founded...

249 posted on 07/14/2014 4:57:03 PM PDT by terycarl
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To: vladimir998
Sola scriptura, for instance, appears no where in scripture yet Protestants believe in it.

And yet you don't have a clue why...It's because unlike Catholics, many non Catholics actually study and believe the bible and they/we see sola scripture everywhere we look...We don't need the word alone to see that were are to believe the scripture alone...

250 posted on 07/14/2014 4:57:16 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: terycarl

RE: nope, if you’re baptized, you’re Catholic...

The I’m catholic.


251 posted on 07/14/2014 4:59:11 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: terycarl

RE: nope, if you’re baptized, you’re Catholic...

Then I’m catholic.


252 posted on 07/14/2014 4:59:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: CynicalBear

Buh Bye, CB.


253 posted on 07/14/2014 5:01:58 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: DuncanWaring
Also, do you have any proof she’s actually dead?

Yes...Everybody dies (until the rapture) except for those who God specifically said did not die...

Heb_9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

It's an appointment, for everyone...

254 posted on 07/14/2014 5:02:35 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: terycarl
HE founded IT to make it easier and more organized to follow HIM rather than 20,000 or so diverse opinions as to what HE had founded...

We don't need to be organized to follow Him. We follow Him individually. His sheep know His voice and follow Him.

255 posted on 07/14/2014 5:07:45 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Elsie

No, but if you hire a lawyer and call the office, that lawyer probably won’t answer the phone.

If an associate lawyer, a legal clerk or a receptionist answer, are you going to hang up?

No, more likely you’ll say something to the effect of “Please ask my lawyer to call me back” or “Please ask my lawyer to do this regarding my case”.


256 posted on 07/14/2014 5:12:46 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: william clark
Are you a priest? Because if not, then you have no authority to debate me on the subject of sola scriptura using Thessalonians or any other scripture. Why? Because based on what I've observed in these threads, the reasoning (and I use the term loosely) of the anti-sola scriptura crowd is that to do so would be to utilize your own understanding of scripture, which is what you folks seem to find so offensive in Protestantism.

Game. Set. Match.

Bravo and well said!!

Hoss

257 posted on 07/14/2014 5:14:37 PM PDT by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: Missouri gal
Jesus founded the Church to save us with. If you won’t accept the life jacket, you are sinking. The world is on a bad course because of rejecting the Church.

That contradicts scripture so we know that it is a lie you are repeating...Jesus made US the church after he saved us...

258 posted on 07/14/2014 5:15:17 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: vladimir998

You know, I think you’re a crypto-Protestant.

You’re everything anyone ever rejected the Catholic Church over, all rolled up into one egomaniacal jerk.

All anyone has to do is read what you post, and they reject even the smallest thought of becoming a Catholic. You even make Catholics cringe.

Brilliant, actually. You must piss the Jesuits off to no end.


259 posted on 07/14/2014 5:17:03 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: sr4402
Mary being thoroughly Jewish would not like the statues of her and would say to everyone to worship God alone and that only He can hear and answer the prayers of folks like us.

Mary wouldn't have been caught dead (or alive) bowing to a statue (idol) of anything...

260 posted on 07/14/2014 5:21:07 PM PDT by Iscool
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