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To: CynicalBear

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

It is interesting Paul uses some of these words, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, which make sense if there is one holy catholic apostolic church that is built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone and the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth.

If, on the other hand, there is diversity of doctrine and individuals have their own personal doctrine, not so much. Can you consider the possibility that what you have been taught, or taught yourself, about the holy catholic apostolic faith might not be correct ?

235 posted on 07/06/2014 7:31:23 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981
Whoa! Change the subject much? Actually no that doesn’t make sense. God did not nor would He ever institute a “church” that incorporates pagan practices in serving Him. He specifically forbids it.

Deuteronomy 12:30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou enquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise. 31 Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God

But the Catholic Church blatantly says they do it anyway.

“We need not shrink from admitting that candles, like incense and lustral water, were commonly employed in pagan worship and the rites paid to the dead. But the Church from a very early period took them into her service, just as she adopted many other things indifferent in themselves, which seemed proper to enhance the splendor of religious ceremonial. We must not forget that most of these adjuncts to worship, like music, lights, perfumes, ablutions, floral decorations, canopies, fans, screens, bells, vestments etc. were not identified with any idolatrous cult in particular; but they were common to almost all cults” (Catholic Encyclopedia, III, 246.)

“When we give or receive Christmas gifts; or hang green wreaths in our homes and churches, how many of us know that we are probably observing pagan customs...the god, Woden, in Norse Mythology, descends upon the earth yearly between December 25th and January 6th to bless mankind...But pagan though they be, they are beautiful customs. They help inspire us with the spirit of 'good will to men', even as the sublime service of our Church reminds us of the ‘peace on earth’ which the babe of Bethlehem came to bestow” (Externals of the Catholic Church, 140).

Scripture tells us that has happened before.

“As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the LORD, we will not hearken unto thee. But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.” (Jer.44:16-17)

There is not way the RCC is the “church” that Christ instituted. It’s an apostate religion which thumbs it’s nose at God.

236 posted on 07/07/2014 12:21:23 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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