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To: Colofornian

The world observes and ‘reformers’ too worship the pope gregory calendar, the pope’s sabbath(most) and pope’s holy days...
All unbiblical..and all will be defended and explained away by ‘reformers’..

If a reformation starts, it should start with reformers admitting they ‘worship’ from the false premise of the greco roman latin mother church’s teachings or practices...

If the first reformers believed the papacy was the antichrist-

How comfortable would a believer be willing to worship the antichrist’s calendar?
How comfortable would a believer be willing to worship the antichrist’s sabbath?
How comfortable would a believer be willing to worship the antichrist’s
holy days?

Apparently the answer is - very comfortable...


5 posted on 06/26/2014 12:45:15 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante
If a reformation starts, it should start with reformers admitting they ‘worship’ from the false premise of the greco roman latin mother church’s teachings or practices...

Or not...


Romans 14:5
One person considers one day more sacred than another; another considers every day alike. Each of them should be fully convinced in their own mind.

7 posted on 06/26/2014 12:52:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: delchiante; Elsie; All
The world observes and ‘reformers’ too worship the pope gregory calendar, the pope’s sabbath(most) and pope’s holy days... All unbiblical..and all will be defended and explained away by ‘reformers’..If a reformation starts, it should start with reformers admitting they ‘worship’ from the false premise of the greco roman latin mother church’s teachings or practices...If the first reformers believed the papacy was the antichrist-How comfortable would a believer be willing to worship the antichrist’s calendar? How comfortable would a believer be willing to worship the antichrist’s sabbath? How comfortable would a believer be willing to worship the antichrist’s holy days? Apparently the answer is - very comfortable...

Delchiante, let's just for a moment grant your premises above...Let's say that every poster in this thread might somehow agree with your historical purview that such as stated above was based upon...let's see...how did you frame the above...oh, yeah...based upon...
...that which is...
..."unbiblical"
..."false premises"
...of "anti-Christ"

OK, then...THEN let's ask -- and actually expect -- a candid response from you on these ensuing questions:

I take it, then, Delchiante, that you're wholly 100% consistent on your approaches to days devoted to false gods, right?

So...
...we in this thread also thereby assume...
...that you tear out most January --> June months of your calendars ['cause their names are derived from false gods]... [And you refuse to likewise use any cell phone or other digital calendar that does the same]
...right?
...and, of course, you never reference those names in your everyday talk -- unless of course, you're bringing up their pagan references...
...and, of course, you must have developed alternative names for everyday but Sunday...'cause Monday thru Saturday also are derived from pagan gods...
...as we know some poster accusing others of what you've mentioned above wouldn't dare be hypocritical himself on these matters...

...Right???

Here's a history pagan god lesson for you, Delchiante:

Thursday evolved from the Germanic pagan god, Thor? So, tell us, Delchiante unless you studiously avoid using the term Thursday -- or Thor's day -- why do you devote such a day to such a god?

I mean, don't you worship a jealous God? Is he not provoked by the way you honor and acknowledge and recognize the false god, Thor? (Or does He look the other way and doesn't care?)

I mean, it can't possibly be that you would hypocritically apply your argument to say, a day like Christmas yet recognize Thor's day, eh?

Yes? No? You recognize Thor's day, then? If so, my, my, my: How inconsistent, how two-faced, how Pharisaical, how 'teacher-of-the-law' of you, how hypocritical of you, then, Delchiante!

As for the rest of the days & months:
* Monday came from Germanic mythology where the "moon god" = Mani.
* Tuesday comes from Norse mythology re: its one-handed god, Tiw.
* Wednesday comes from the Germanic god Wodan.
* Friday comes from the Anglo-Saxon goddess Frige.
* Saturday comes from the Roman god Saturn (Anglo-Saxon rendering was Sæturnesdæg)
* January - Janus, Roman god of the beginning/doorway
* March - Mars, Roman god of war
* April - unknown, potentially Aphrodite, Greek goddess of love
* May - Maia, Greek goddess of fertility
* June - juno, Roman goddess of protection

So...tell us, Delchiante...how you've managed to be "biblical"...and base your current calendar on "true premises" and "pro-Christ" vs. "anti-Christ" to avoid offending or provoking our Jealous God by avoiding days and months and their names that honor and acknowledge these various pagan gods.

We're all interested in knowing what system you came up with steadfastly (and legalistically, if I might add) avoid such a thing.

And if you can't, may I suggest in the future that you put away such accusations...because you're as inconsistent, then, as all get-out!

10 posted on 06/26/2014 1:28:23 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: delchiante
If a reformation starts, it should start with reformers admitting they ‘worship’ from the false premise of the greco roman latin mother church’s teachings or practices...

Tradition is respected, not worshiped. Good order is a guiding principle. We do not have to follow any specific calendar, sabath, or holy days. These things may not be Biblical, but neither are they forbidden.

The tradition, especially the liturgy, mirrors many biblical principles and is built upon historical good order. While Lutherans may consider the pope an antichrist, we do not reject the history of the ancient churches.

Teachings that contradict Biblical truths are rejected. Practices that are forbidden are rejected. Links back to the ancient churches are cherished.

11 posted on 06/26/2014 1:45:55 PM PDT by Tao Yin
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To: delchiante
The world observes and ‘reformers’ too worship the pope gregory calendar

What kind of non-sense is this? Using a calendar is not worshiping it. Or did you mean worship according to the Gregorian calendar, as you are a sabbathtarian?

The world observes and ‘reformers’ too worship the pope gregory calendar, the pope’s sabbath(most) and pope’s holy days... All unbiblical..and all will be defended and explained away by ‘reformers’..

This is typical RC logic (evenm if you are not) and is absurd, as its premise is that if we accept and use anything, such as a point of reference, then this means we recognize the validity of the whole system

Yet we use terminology and reference points from the world, and operating systems from atheists.

Meanwhile, religiously observing "days, and months, and times, and years" (Galatians 4:10-11) as in the liturgical calendar of Judaism or Catholicism is not NT worship led by the Spirit.

20 posted on 06/26/2014 4:39:22 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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