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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Why would any Christian want to keep dietary laws and other such things when they are freed from all such obligation?

Many who identIfy as Christians refuse to keep any law they do not personally agree with because they think of Jesus as a personal savior. They rebel against apostolic authority whether written or by succession. For example, do all obey the first Jerusalem Council, Paul's writing for how women are to behave, other apostolic teaching on contraception and abortion, etc. ? No; I don't see the Gentile Christians rushing to the Torah so we do not want to blame Jews for the Gentiles' disobedience. It would be better if they stopped rebelling, reforming, and starting new denominations, sects, and cults, returning to the unity and love of the blessed apostles and Mary.

754 posted on 07/01/2014 8:49:56 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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“Many who identIfy as Christians refuse to keep any law they do not personally agree with because they think of Jesus as a personal savior.”

So what was Christ speaking of when he spoke a parable where he would leave 99 sheep to rescue that one which was lost, even giving his life for that one sheep? Sounds like a personal savior to me! We are certainly not judged collectively...we are all judged individually! And what is the Holy Spirit? Chopped Liver?! You don’t think that “He that has begun a good work in each of us will complete it in the day of the Resurrection?” Paul acknowledged that there would be disagreements as to foods, days of worship,ect but we were not to forget the Christ who loved and died for us. No Christian will deny that the 10 commandments aren’t important to follow..but they might disagree on what constitutes a Sabbath. As for the Sabbath...it was made for man not man for the Sabbath. If the Lord be truly with us, then it is always Sabbath time anyway!


756 posted on 07/01/2014 9:29:20 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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It would be better if they stopped rebelling, reforming, and starting new denominations, sects, and cults, returning to the unity and love of the blessed apostles and Mary.

Well, there's Catholicism in a nutshell. Anything but Jesus.

And Jesus is just where in that faith?

Is He just a window dressing?

Christianity isn't about the unity and love of the apostles and Mary. It's about Jesus.

757 posted on 07/01/2014 11:12:53 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: af_vet_1981
Many who identIfy as Christians refuse to keep any law they do not personally agree with because they think of Jesus as a personal savior.

Jesus saves people, as individuals. What other kind of Savior would He be?

They rebel against apostolic authority whether written or by succession. For example, do all obey the first Jerusalem Council, Paul's writing for how women are to behave, other apostolic teaching on contraception and abortion, etc. ?

The don't rebel against legitimate God ordained authority. But the claims of authority that the Catholic church makes are not well supported, so if someone doesn't believe that they have legitimate authority, why should they listen to the RCC?

And just where did the apostles teach about contraception and abortion? Chapter and verse?


767 posted on 07/01/2014 2:45:33 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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