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To: vladimir998
Simple: Did he have money? No. Did he have an army? No. Did he ever even stay in one place for very long? No. Did he ever once command people to do an immoral act? No. Did he ever command people to obey his every whim, or his every desire? No.

You have a very simplistic idea of what "power" is. Nelson Mandela had power. Ghandi had power. They are practically worshipped in some circles (as Paul is here) but they too lived sometimes in simplicity, sometimes in captivity and danger... you need to expand your understanding of what power is. It's not just the ability to command armies and get laid.

You compared him to Koresh remember? Koresh raped young girls.

I just mean that many people (usually men) have claimed -- and perhaps even believed -- that God was speaking to them, and giving them authority to lead others. The details of how they wield that power, be it securing hot chicks or telling churches not to let women speak, depends on the man.

You think all ambitions men use their “power” to seduce women?

No, I said just the opposite; that they don't all do that, and if he didn't, he wouldn't be the only one.

Actually there’s plenty of evidence Rasputin seduced women.

That has been disputed recently. Who knows? I don't particularly care.

The guy who ran Heaven’s Gate was castrated as were many of the male followers.

Exactly. He was not using his power for sex. In fact, he seemed to have a real hang-up about it (rather like Paul.)

No matter what you talk about here you seem to have little or no knowledge about the subject.

It's not me, dear, it's you. You are not reading carefully what I am saying, and you are missing the point.

355 posted on 06/25/2014 7:37:00 PM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady

“You have a very simplistic idea of what “power” is. Nelson Mandela had power.”

Nelson was a high ranking member of a communist organization with a military wing.

“Ghandi had power.”

Ghandi led a massive organization - a revolutionary organization albeit non-violent.

“They are practically worshipped in some circles (as Paul is here) but they too lived sometimes in simplicity, sometimes in captivity and danger... you need to expand your understanding of what power is. It’s not just the ability to command armies and get laid.”

You seem to be disconnected with reality. Paul had no massive organization, no newspapers, no military wing, no radio speeches, and no money.

“I just mean that many people...”

It doesn’t matter what you meant if it was irrational - and it was.

“You are not reading carefully what I am saying, and you are missing the point.”

You don’t seem to have a point. Your posts are irrational.


379 posted on 06/25/2014 10:26:53 PM PDT by vladimir998
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