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To: ealgeone

Read your Bible. Christ breathed on the apostlels, making them the first Bishops, giving them the power to forgive sins or hold sins bound.

How old is your church?


22 posted on 06/24/2014 2:53:59 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Christian church is about 2000 years old...Probably the Roman Christian church is is a little younger than the Jewish Christian churches....but that makes sense since Jesus taught among the Jews first in Palestine, then he taught others...in Palestine... It was after the resurection that the big push happened. Thanks to Paul....and to the other characters in ACTS.


33 posted on 06/24/2014 3:04:33 PM PDT by rface
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To: Salvation
Read your Bible. Christ breathed on the apostlels, making them the first Bishops, giving them the power to forgive sins or hold sins bound. How old is your church?

age of one's church is irrelevant. you can exist for centuries and be totally wrong.

The Christian Church dates back to the time of Christ. It could be said it began at Pentecost.

Where are the apostles called bishops in the New Testament?

btw...I've read my Bible and I'm glad to hear a catholic reading theirs.

still waiting for you to show me in the Bible where Mary is declared sinless.

67 posted on 06/24/2014 5:14:21 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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To: Salvation
Have you read your Bible? I've read mine and I can't find any of the following using your criteria of reading the Bible. Therefore one must conclude these are non-Biblical, that is to say, false teachings.

Mary is Mediatrix, CCC 969, "Therefore the Blessed Virgin is invoked in the Church under the titles of Advocate, Helper, Benefactress, and Mediatrix.'"

Mary brings us the gifts of eternal salvation, CCC 969, "Taken up to heaven she did not lay aside this saving office but by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation . . . "

Mary delivers souls from death, CCC 966, " . . . You [Mary] conceived the living God and, by your prayers, will deliver our souls from death."

CCC 2677, "By asking Mary to pray for us, we acknowledge ourselves to be poor sinners and we address ourselves to the 'Mother of Mercy,' the All-Holy One. We give ourselves over to her now, in the Today of our lives. And our trust broadens further, already at the present moment, to surrender 'the hour of our death' wholly to her care."

CCC 2068, "so that all men may attain salvation through faith, Baptism and the observance of the Commandments,"

CCC 82, ". . .the Church, to whom the transmission and interpretation of Revelation is entrusted, does not derive her certainty about all revealed truths from the holy Scriptures alone. Both Scripture and Tradition must be accepted and honored with equal sentiments of devotion and reverence'."

70 posted on 06/24/2014 5:39:01 PM PDT by ealgeone (obama, borderof)
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