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To: editor-surveyor
>> “At least you aren't defending obedience to Torah as THE way to have eternal life as Editor-Surveyor has been doing” << That is a false and most dishonest statement! All of your posts are based on such false and dishonest statements.

Who do you think is fooled by your reactionary and defensive response? All anyone has to do is read through THIS thread (not to mention all the other ones where you have tried to spread your false gospel) to see that you do indeed insist that obedience to the "Torah" is how anyone can be justified. You recently took it upon yourself to judge MY salvation and question my faith in Jesus Christ based upon my disputing with you on the subject. You said I was a child of Satan and was going to hell, have you forgotten so soon???

The falseness and dishonesty is coming from you as you try to back off from your acrimonious assertions here. The gospel you believe is the one Paul called ACCURSED. I will have nothing to do with that.

1,026 posted on 07/09/2014 1:44:28 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: boatbums

The false gospel is your own!

This promise of “grace” without the stated evidence of knowing him? Yep!

A promise of guaranteed salvation, without maintaining a faith relationship to the end? Yep!

Nothing in your ‘gospel’ can be found in the word of God.

I question the salvation of everyone that tries to claim grace without the evidence that the word says must be there; especially those that claim that the required evidence has been abolished.

I question the state of all the try to claim “eternal security” in any form, because the word says there is no such thing. Yeshua plainly said that “the faith of many shall wax cold,” and there is no reason not to believe him, especially with so many fooled by Satan’s pre-trib rapture, and the false belief that Torah can cease before the Earth and Heavens do.

You should question it too.

Your favorite repeated falsehood that I ever said that anyone can be justified by Torah is solid reason to question everything you say.

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1,028 posted on 07/09/2014 2:08:44 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: boatbums
>> “The gospel you believe is the one Paul called ACCURSED” <<

Vile Satanic falsehood!

The gospel I believe is the same one that Paul preached, and, as he affirmed in Hebrews 3 and 4, as the very same one that Moses preached in the desert.

Heb.3

[1] Wherefore, holy brethren, partakers of the heavenly calling, consider the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus;
[2] Who was faithful to him that appointed him, as also Moses was faithful in all his house.
[3] For this man was counted worthy of more glory than Moses, inasmuch as he who hath builded the house hath more honour than the house.
[4] For every house is builded by some man; but he that built all things is God.
[5] And Moses verily was faithful in all his house, as a servant, for a testimony of those things which were to be spoken after;
[6] But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end.
[7] Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,
[8] Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
[9] When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
[10] Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
[11] So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest.)
[12] Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
[13] But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
[14] For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end;
[15] While it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts, as in the provocation.
[16] For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
[17] But with whom was he grieved forty years? was it not with them that had sinned, whose carcases fell in the wilderness?
[18] And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?
[19] So we see that they could not enter in because of unbelief.
Heb.4
[1] Let us therefore fear, lest, a promise being left us of entering into his rest, any of you should seem to come short of it.
[2] For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
[3] For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the works were finished from the foundation of the world.
[4] For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
[5] And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
[6] Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
[7] Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time; as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
[8] For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
[9] There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
[10] For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his.
[11] Let us labour therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same example of unbelief.
[12] For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.


So we see here that you deny the gospel that Paul preached in your every post here. He declared that there is no difference between his gospel and that of Moses.

Can you false "rightly dividers" divide that fact away?

Or the plain fact that you must remain in faith to the end?

Easy believeism is just nowhere to be found in the Word of God.

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1,030 posted on 07/09/2014 2:45:57 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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