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To: boatbums; roamer_1
>> “At least you aren't defending obedience to Torah as THE way to have eternal life as Editor-Surveyor has been doing” <<

That is a false and most dishonest statement!

All of your posts are based on such false and dishonest statements. Doing battle with a strawman will do nothing for your departure from scripture, nor your stature here.

Obedience to his commandments is always the result of Yeshua being “in” you, with no exceptions, as John clearly stated in his first epistle:

1John.2

[1] My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
[2] And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
[3] And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
[5] But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
[6] He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
[7] Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

1,024 posted on 07/09/2014 10:06:50 AM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor
>> “At least you aren't defending obedience to Torah as THE way to have eternal life as Editor-Surveyor has been doing” << That is a false and most dishonest statement! All of your posts are based on such false and dishonest statements.

Who do you think is fooled by your reactionary and defensive response? All anyone has to do is read through THIS thread (not to mention all the other ones where you have tried to spread your false gospel) to see that you do indeed insist that obedience to the "Torah" is how anyone can be justified. You recently took it upon yourself to judge MY salvation and question my faith in Jesus Christ based upon my disputing with you on the subject. You said I was a child of Satan and was going to hell, have you forgotten so soon???

The falseness and dishonesty is coming from you as you try to back off from your acrimonious assertions here. The gospel you believe is the one Paul called ACCURSED. I will have nothing to do with that.

1,026 posted on 07/09/2014 1:44:28 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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To: editor-surveyor
That is a false and most dishonest statement!

Example of what I am talking about:


    The apostles all wrote that "doers of the law will be justified." They did not write that doers of the law will be justified by the law. Nobody ever was or will be justified by the law. Doers of the law will be justified because earnestly and obediently following the commandments is what leads to genuine righteousness. It makes his disciples “righteous as he is righteous.” That is why the law is called “instruction in righteousness,” and “the perfect law of liberty.” “ For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.” That is what the Holy Spirit inspired the apostles to write. Deliberately manipulating and inverting the message of Acts 15 will cost many dearly. (editor-surveyor in this thread)


Don't call me a liar! At least own your OWN statements.
1,029 posted on 07/09/2014 2:13:12 PM PDT by boatbums (Proud member of the Free Republic Bible Thumpers Brigade.)
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