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To: metmom
And the protestant contingent is dragged into that for what reason exactly?

Because the MSM and protestantism make common cause with each other. That's why. Oh sure, the MSM does it from the homosexual/abortion angle and the protestants do it form the doctrine angle. Truly a distinction without a difference, however. It's not like we haven't seen these types of alliances before, i.e., the alliance between leftists and islamists.

Whoever said that they thought they were out to destroy the Catholic priesthood and thus bring down the RCC?

Like I said, Elizabeth I made a go of it by suppressing the priesthood and the episcopacy specifically to prevent ordination so this is not without precedent. We just have a MSM and scores of ignorant protestants to take up the slack from where Elizabeth left off.

Speaking of absurd, how that working out for ya?

I hear its working good. Vocations are up. Lots of faithful, heterosexual priests are being ordained these days now that the seminaries have been cleared out. And now we're working on the convents.

Like they're not going to lie about it?

Well at least one protestant is willing to admit its a matter of homosexual infiltration and subversion; not a matter of discipline.

If it's not doctrine, then there's no need to demand it, then is there?

We have a visible Church that has structure. That requires administration. I know protestants hate to hear that with all of their secular talk of autocratic bureaucracy with its rules and regulations etcetera ad nauseum. Priestly celibacy makes sense administratively, theologically, biblically and in all manner of other categories.

As an aside, this whole protestant obsession with what is "needed" and "not needed" is merely a rationalistic tendency to serve self. To serve what is desirable according to the individual. It's not a measure of truth.

118 posted on 06/23/2014 4:39:05 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: JPX2011

That requires administration.


157 posted on 06/23/2014 8:41:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JPX2011
It's not like we haven't seen these types of alliances before, i.e., the alliance between leftists and islamists.

People who live in glass house shouldn't throw stones.

YOUR pope kissing the koran. Fits right in with YOUR Catechism of the Catholic church.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG0015/__P29.HTM

841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."330


172 posted on 06/23/2014 11:48:50 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: JPX2011
Well at least one protestant is willing to admit its a matter of homosexual infiltration and subversion; not a matter of discipline.

Show me one post where a non-Catholic said otherwise.

The point that we've been making about having a married priesthood is exactly that. That it would prevent the priesthood from becoming a safe haven for homosexuals. IOW, it clearly recognizes that homosexual infiltration has occurred. Can you all afford some reading comprehension lessons, or will you just try to stop filtering everything through your anti-Protestant lenses?

Priestly celibacy makes sense administratively, theologically, biblically and in all manner of other categories.

Except Scripturally where even GOD didn't require a celibate priesthood for His Jewish priests.

As an aside, this whole protestant obsession with what is "needed" and "not needed" is merely a rationalistic tendency to serve self.

Nobody said anything about needed or not needed either. We recognize that allowing a married priesthood would free up many married men to fill the role and ease the burden on the Catholic churches because there just aren't enough single priests to go around.

The suggestion is offered as a solution, one that most RC's gasp in horror over.

174 posted on 06/23/2014 11:54:26 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: JPX2011

Freeing up married men to become priests would provide more than enough men to carry the work load without them having to compromise their families.


185 posted on 06/23/2014 12:16:17 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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