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To: Wuli; Gamecock
Again, I am not surprised, and again a Roman Catholic Pope refuses to speak bluntly and directly on what he means, using religious and theological euphemisms you are supposed to make your own direct economic theory and political theory ties to just so the Roman Catholic Pope can knowingly promote Marxism/Socialism and get away with saying that is not what he meant (because he made sure he did not say it directly).
To be sure, the contents of the letter to Ryan weren’t just a product of Dolan’s need to appease both sides in the intra-Church struggle. It was also a classic example of a style of ecclesiastical document that the Vatican employs in complicated situations....This style of writing aims at “studied ambiguity,” a Vatican diplomat explained to me, noting that the people who write such letters are trained to think in terms of centuries, not sound bites. “So you always need to be able to say fifty years on, ‘Well, of course we never meant that,’” the diplomat said.
-- from the thread Mixed Blessing: The Ryan budget and the raging battle within the U.S. Catholic Church

53 posted on 06/17/2014 12:04:06 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Alex Murphy
The same ambiguity and double speak that is woven through Roman doctrine.

You can't divorce. But we will give you an annulment.

Prolife. But proabortion Pols are welcome at the rail.

No artificial contraception. But you can play around with ovulatory cycles to figure out when it is safe to have sex without getting pregnant.

54 posted on 06/17/2014 12:10:15 PM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: Alex Murphy
To be sure, the contents of the letter to Ryan weren’t just a product of Dolan’s need to appease both sides in the intra-Church struggle. It was also a classic example of a style of ecclesiastical document that the Vatican employs in complicated situations....This style of writing aims at “studied ambiguity,” a Vatican diplomat explained to me, noting that the people who write such letters are trained to think in terms of centuries, not sound bites. “So you always need to be able to say fifty years on, ‘Well, of course we never meant that,’” the diplomat said. -- from the thread Mixed Blessing: The Ryan budget and the raging battle within the U.S. Catholic Church

That is about the most fitting post yet. In the light of yet another debate on what the pope meant, and what they and Rome meant in the past, it is evident that while RCs hold relegate the Scriptures to being a incoherent dead letter without Rome to interpret them, the fact is that RCs must often interpret their interpreter as she herself often lacks perspicuity.

88 posted on 06/18/2014 5:40:52 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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