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To: G Larry
I don’t have a problem, as there is NO “rapture”.

Wow, you're good at repeating that assertion with or without your exclamation points as though your saying it makes it so.

A valid argument requires more than a conclusory assertion. It requires evidence and reasoning - in this case scripture-based evidence and reasoning.

You may deny it until Jesus comes back, but you have failed to solve your "thief" problem reconciling with scripture-based reasoning and evidence: "Behold I come as a thief" (Rev 16:5) (nobody knows when a thief comes) with "For as the lightning comes out of the east, and shines even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be" (Matt 24:27) (everybody'll see that).

You also haven't solved your "wrath" problem with scripture-based reasoning and evidence: "For God hath not appointed us to wrath" (1 Thess 5:9) and the seven-year period of the Tribulation being a time of "the wrath of the Lamb" (Rev 6:16) and "the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture" (Rev 14:10).

I pray you will let the Lord help you with this, as He (not man) did with me. Nevertheless, it's not a core issue - Christ is. But whoever can receive the comfort and reassurance scripture offers about the end times will be happier in the meantime.

116 posted on 06/15/2014 9:19:04 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

Your problem is that you continue to insist that because we won’t know when the Second Coming of Christ will be, that somehow is evidence of a “rapture”.

Because I have scripturally addressed every other alleged reference to rapture, you now hang on this thin thread as though there is only one understanding of the meaning of “For God hath not appointed us to wrath”.

In this reference you will find the term “trial” where you have wrath.

There are many Bible verses that show that Christ permits his Church to suffer persecution and tribulation. In John 17:15 Christ says, “I do not pray that thou shouldst take them out of the world, but that thou shouldst keep them from the evil one”. John 16:33 says, “In the world you have tribulation; but be of good cheer, I have overcome the world.”

John 15:19 says that Christians have been chosen “out of the world,” but it does not say that Christians will be ‘taken’ out of the world, prior to a time of persecution.
The Church will endure persecutions and tribulations and it will come through them purified.


117 posted on 06/16/2014 5:06:00 AM PDT by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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