Posted on 06/07/2014 2:20:39 PM PDT by yongin
My denomination is dealing these days with a pastor in California who reversed his position on homosexuality. The pastor said that his shift coincided with his 15 year-old son’s announcement that he is gay. This is a situation every Christian should think through, now. As I’ve said before, at stake on the issue of a Christian sexual ethic is the gospel of Jesus Christ. But what if, sitting across from you, is your child or grandchild?
You will, without a doubt, have someone close to you in your family come out as gay or lesbian, if not already, then sometime in the future. How should a Christian parent or grandparent respond?
One of the reasons this is such a crushing experience for many is because they assume that their alternatives are affirmation or alienation. I either give up my relationship with my child or I give up the Bible. The gospel never suggests this set of alternatives, and in fact demonstrates just the opposite.
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YOU SET HIM STRAIGHT.
Nobody is “gay”. Some people choose to engage in homosexual activity. That is a sin. It is also a sin to aid and abet that activity. The preacher condoning, accepting and promoting his son’s sinful choice is himself, a sinner in need of repentance. Until he does repent, he should be removed from his position immediately.
I would probably tell my son...what he does with his body I stopped having concerns of when he became a man. Because where , with who and how he goes about in unrestrained sexual encounters is his decision.
I would NOT address the issue as anything other than a sexual issue....because frankly that’s exactly what it is. All the rest is “fluff” in order to justify what they choose to do so they are not critiqued about it by society...and relieve the guilt they carry.
It’s no different than a teenagers or adults who want to have sex outside of the clear perameters God has designed to protect them.....there are natural consequences for behavior if they choose to induldge those behaviors.
It gets more damaging for families when an individual wants to bring home or include their gay friends with the family. I would say no at that point, even if it might mean my son would not attend...again his choice and one I would not enable further behavior of.
I think that the Church needs to take a stand on this but many are unwilling to do so for the popular false belief this is acceptable behavior.....(it is NOT a lifestyle..it’s a behavior), and would loose membership or create splits in the church as it is obviously already doing.
What they have done to our children is cloud the whole issue in dialog about "...how we are so in love..." and "...being in love should be a right..." and "...we have as much right to be in love and marry as any one else..." for starters. Many of the parents that have been or become converted were won over by arguments about love and how can it be wrong to be so "in love"? And those fools buy into the arguments, not even thinking about how we can be in love with our house, dog, cat, horse or even car, but that doesn't mean we should marry them!
Once people allow themselves to accept a fallacious argument, they have lost the argument. I remember when my son was interested in Barbie dolls. He would play with his sisters and I just let him go on for a while. I figured if I let it go for a short while he would tell me why he was playing "dolls." It went on like that the whole summer and I finally asked him about it. He liked pretending with his sisters, but what he really wanted was to play with a GI Joe action figure and hoped they would get a Ken doll along the way. Guess what he got come Christmas from Santa. He and the girls had a ball, especially since we also saw to it that his big sister got a Ken doll as well. Either way was a win for everyone. Poor Ken got drafted into the Army early on so he could help GI Joe save the world.
Just because a boy/girl finds him/her self interested in stuff from the other side of the fence, does not mean they are suddenly homo. Especially if mom and dad assure them that they are still boys and girls.
Why wouldn't dad say: "It's a grave sin, son, so snap out of it"?
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You mean hate the sin and love the sinner? My, that sounds like some good old fashioned God-think.
My older brother was gay. I don’t believe our parents ever knew it but us kids certainly did. After we graduated from college there was hardly any communication between us. He was probably responsible for a dysfunctional family life. I really didn’t ever hear to much about him until his death. My wife and I had to act as power of attorney. He left all his debts behind him which was quite huge, while his lover was willed all his insurance money. We had to deal with a lot of angry debt holders which were mostly banks. We had to try to straighten out his records for the IRA. From our experience a gay member in a household can make family life miserable. This is what gay activist don’t talk about.
I will find out who molested him or her when they were young.
I doubt it's even half that.
YOU are correct, TADSLOS.
The entire homosexual AND bisexual population is .5 - 1.5% of the population. I've been watching THAT number for years.
It's the same with Homosexuality....”fluff” it up with new vocabulary so it appeals to the senses rather than to the mind of the discerning....color it “pretty” with rainbows and a host of other ‘fairy’ tales so everyone “feels” good about it and nobody gets hurt feelings.
It is exactly how the enemy of men's souls operates, and he's certainly on a roll in every area of sexuality today....he knows it's a great tool to divide and conquer family, friends and all relationships God has established and these with perimeter's which protect us.
Gay activists DON'T care. It's my belief that there is a large amount of narcissism involved with homo/bisexuality.
He was also a THIEF leaving SOMEONE, that is, his debtors, to "eat" his debt. Not fair. It was all about HIM.
If his "lover" were a man of honor, he would have paid his "lover's" debts.
But no, that would involve integrity, honesty and decency.
There was a survey done in the UK of the number of homosexuals. They found that 1.5% were.
UK gay, lesbian and bisexual population revealed
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11398629
Almost three-quarters of a million UK adults say they are gay, lesbian or bisexual - equivalent to 1.5% of the population, a survey suggests.
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) says 480,000 (1%) consider themselves gay or lesbian, and 245,000 (0.5%) bisexual.
The ONS received 450,000 responses in its new Integrated Household Survey.
The survey provides the biggest pool of social data in the UK after the Census, ONS says.
London had the highest percentage of those polled who identified as gay, Lesbian or bisexual and Northern Ireland lowest.
“I would suggest to him that he is probably mistaken. If he persisted in that pathology, I would advise him to seek professional help. If he refused and elected to wallow in his perversion, I would inform him in no uncertain terms that I would continue to love him, but that that part of his life was not welcome under my roof.”
I’d also add that you need to educate him about the expected consequences of his homosexual behavior.
A friend of mine has a lesbian sister who is a complete tyrant. Everything revolves around her lifestyle, and she demands approval from everyone in the family. If that approval is slow in coming, she throws fits and threatens to deprive them of her presence. She usually gets her way.
Look at the bright side. You probably won't have any gay grandchildren.
“As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.” — Joshua 24:15
What if your child is a thief or murderer or serial adulterer?
Wrong is wrong.
I’ll ask him who told him he was gay first then ask him if any scout leaders have tried to recruit him recently.
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Good idea. Get to the start of it. Might be molesters about.
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