[FatherofFive]

But your church is not one. And while it is ancient, it cannot prove itself to exist in the first century.

Starting with the unbroken line of papal authority, I think that is self evident. You are delusional

One is poor and persecuted, the other is rich, material, and drunk.

I have no idea what you are trying to say. Methinks drunk is the operative word.

But your church does not teach the truth.

Says you

Hard to have a discussion with irrational ramblings.

[Elsie]

Starting with the unbroken line of papal authority, I think that is self evident. You are delusional

Unbroken is good!

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Pope Stephen VI (896–897), who had his predecessor Pope Formosus exhumed, tried, de-fingered, briefly reburied, and thrown in the Tiber.^[1]

Pope John XII (955–964), who gave land to a mistress, murdered several people, and was killed by a man who caught him in bed with his wife.

Pope Benedict IX (1032–1044, 1045, 1047–1048), who "sold" the Papacy

Pope Boniface VIII (1294–1303), who is lampooned in Dante's Divine Comedy

Pope Urban VI (1378–1389), who complained that he did not hear enough screaming when Cardinals who had conspired against him were tortured.^[2]

Pope Alexander VI (1492–1503), a Borgia, who was guilty of nepotism and whose unattended corpse swelled until it could barely fit in a coffin.^[3]

Pope Leo X (1513–1521), a spendthrift member of the Medici family who once spent 1/7 of his predecessors' reserves on a single ceremony^[4]

Pope Clement VII (1523–1534), also a Medici, whose power-politicking with France, Spain, and Germany got Rome sacked.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bad_Popes

[Elsie]

Hard to have a discussion with irrational ramblings.

Why is it ALWAYS the Ad Hominem with you guys?

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Logical fallacies hide the truth, so pointing them out is very useful.

 

1. Ad Hominem - Attacking the individual instead of the argument.
Example: You are so stupid your argument couldn't possibly be true.
Example: I figured that you couldn't possibly get it right, so I ignored your comment.

 

Logical fallacies hide the truth, so pointing them out is very useful.

 

1. Ad Hominem - Attacking the individual instead of the argument.
Example: You are so stupid your argument couldn't possibly be true.
Example: I figured that you couldn't possibly get it right, so I ignored your comment.

[roamer_1]

Starting with the unbroken line of papal authority, I think that is self evident. You are delusional

The line of popes is not unbroken, and finds it's genesis in psuedepigrapha. Go and try to prove it - You will see.

I have no idea what you are trying to say. Methinks drunk is the operative word.

Then you have not studied the Word wrt 'the latter days', which both Paul and John declared as begun in their day.

Says you

Says Yeshua:

Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

With them, the truth will be found. Your church does not keep the commandments of YHWH. Rather, it mimics the very things that Yeshua came to rid us of.

Hard to have a discussion with irrational ramblings.

Wow! Don't I know it! But I am trying to help you rid yourself of them. ; )