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There Is No ‘Third Way’ — Southern Baptists Face a Moment of Decision (and so will you)
AlbertMohler.com ^ | June 2, 2014 | Albert Mohler

Posted on 06/02/2014 6:09:52 AM PDT by Bratch

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To: Gamecock
The sad thing is pastors who flip their Biblical positions because of their own children. If they hold fast to the Biblical teaching they should step down.

If anyone aspires to the office of overseer, he desires a noble task. Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach, not a drunkard, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. He must manage his own household well, with all dignity keeping his children submissive, for if someone does not know how to manage his own household, how will he care for God's church? (1 Timothy 3:1-5)

61 posted on 06/02/2014 9:46:34 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: apillar
“Dad, I’m gay.”
Not as long as you're living under my roof your not....

Right on, Dad.

62 posted on 06/02/2014 9:48:30 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Bratch
The pastor's kid is queer.
So now Christianity has to be turned upside down.
The pastor should be run out of town as a fraud.
63 posted on 06/02/2014 9:51:01 AM PDT by oldbrowser (The only way to defeat this country is to turn us against each other.)
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To: ravenwolf; lightman
Church leaders, not knowing the scriptures wants to make every one members, as a result many people like Ananias became members and are now leaders.

I agree with your point. A friend went to a Lutheran Synod meeting over the past weekend, and was slapped in the face with a Marxist lecture on White Privilege.

64 posted on 06/02/2014 9:58:40 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Gumdrop
I have no doubt that if Jesus were on earth today, he would embrace the homosexuals, but he would never condone their homosexual acts.

"Go and sin no more."

65 posted on 06/02/2014 10:04:18 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde

and was slapped in the face with a Marxist lecture on White Privilege.


Yep, you can hear about anything except what the Bible teaches.


66 posted on 06/02/2014 10:16:20 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: Albion Wilde

I tend to agree, much as it pains me to see it happen—I would much rather see theological liberals let the Holy Spirit sort out their heterodoxy, or see them leave on their own.


67 posted on 06/02/2014 10:46:04 AM PDT by The Grammarian
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To: hoagy62

I totally agree and it’s going to be a lot sooner than 10 years. It’s as if time has sped up with respect to this stuff, it’s snowballing and hurtling downhill.


68 posted on 06/02/2014 10:50:23 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I have friends who are homosexual. I have friends who are fornicators. Both know where I stand. Except most congregations give fornication a pass because to many of their family and friends do it. Just like this pastor and homosexuality


69 posted on 06/02/2014 12:13:48 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: The Grammarian

They’ve been told to leave at past Conferences; but that’s not what they want. They want to outlaw Biblical Christianity. Methodists are going to have to develop spines. But I don’t see it happening except in isolated pockets of the nation.

I also think that no one should be encouraged or allowed to join a Christian church without having to complete two semesters of lessons and then pass an exam. They can be video lessons or online lessons with a workbook; but pastors must stop acting as banquet managers for cafeteria Christians and wedding-venue shoppers and start holding people’s feet to the fire. Judgment Day certainly will.


70 posted on 06/02/2014 2:31:43 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde
I agree with your point. A friend went to a Lutheran Synod meeting over the past weekend, and was slapped in the face with a Marxist lecture on White Privilege.

White privilege is only possible with liberal guilt. Conservatives are not so gullible.

71 posted on 06/02/2014 3:42:24 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: fwdude
This applies to many other issue facing the Church as well.

Maybe. It depends on what "issue" you are thinking about.

72 posted on 06/02/2014 4:30:05 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: Hoodat

Exactly. Women’s ordination is usually the prerequisite to embracing homosexual behavior.


73 posted on 06/02/2014 8:45:58 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Bratch

Liberals Baptists are an enigma to me. Allow me to illustrate:

“Embrace homosexuality. Check.

Ordain females. Check.

Support abortions. Check.

Baptize infants. No way that’s a sin!” :?


74 posted on 06/02/2014 8:48:54 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: ReformationFan

Maybe they will allow same-sex marriage between men only.


75 posted on 06/02/2014 8:56:26 PM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: Hoodat

Funny you should mention that. I was thinking about what Jesus said in Matthew 19:4-6

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=MATTHEW+19%3A4-6&version=NASB

4 And He answered and said, “Have you not read that He who created them from the beginning made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let no man separate.

This passage is the biggest reason why Bible-believing Christian churches have always taught that marriage is one male to one female. Jesus essentially stated that women are an essential part of what marriage is. That’s an extremely emancipating message to women, especially in that 1st century, male-dominated context. If Jesus had taught the opposite(that women were unessential to marriage) that would not have been an emancipating message to the female of the human species. In fact, it would have been a truly misogynist one.


76 posted on 06/02/2014 9:07:46 PM PDT by ReformationFan
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To: Publius Valerius

In many cases if a church withdraws from the SBC, it has to make a large payment to do so.


77 posted on 06/02/2014 9:13:42 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Albion Wilde
"Go and sin no more."

That's the last thing desired by the American people.

78 posted on 06/02/2014 9:15:48 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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To: Theodore R.

“Go and sin no more”

Why do some people always forget that part?


79 posted on 06/02/2014 9:27:50 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: ReformationFan

Agreed. Jesus did more for the empowerment of women than any other person in history. It was a woman whom Jesus revealed Himself to as Messiah. It was a woman who anointed Jesus in preparation for His sacrifice. It was a woman who was told to go preach the good news. And it was a woman whom Paul chose to establish the church at Ephesus.


80 posted on 06/03/2014 4:30:30 AM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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