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To: Elsie

Are you guys STILL arguing about whether Mary had sex WITH HER HUSBAND or not????

To quote a famous modern politician “WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?”


364 posted on 06/02/2014 7:27:38 PM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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To: Mr. K

It makes a HELL of a lot of difference to a CATHOLIC!


370 posted on 06/03/2014 3:54:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mr. K
See 374 below.

Why do you think Rome treats Scripture with contempt by presuming all NT pastors (which are never called "priests") - except a few converts - have the gift of celibacy/continence, while 1Tim. 3 and Titus 1 shows marriage as being the normative state, as if even was among apostles and those who were not could become so, (1Cor. 9:5).

And being a husband and father is even invoked as a positive preparation for pastoral ministry, not impugned as a hindrance. For personal devotion and holiness celibacy is advantageous, and would be for a traveling minster as Paul, but so would never having to wash or eat. However, necessity requires such, and Scripture indicates being a husband and father is a necessity for the normal pastorate.

A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife...One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity; (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?) (1 Timothy 3:4-5)

Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas? (1 Corinthians 9:5)

376 posted on 06/03/2014 6:26:39 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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