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To: editor-surveyor
You are calling Yeshua a liar, by totally twisting what the prophet was saying.

Will you explain, then, what Jeremiah was saying?

Yeshua and his apostles declared plainly that “doers of the Law will be Justified.”

You've really misunderstood Romans 2:13. Have you read Romans 3:20?...

"by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified in his sight"

In fact, it seems you've missed the entire point of Paul's letter to the Romans. Here's a short passage worth considering from chapter 2:


"For circumcision indeed profiteth, if thou be a doer of the law: but if thou be a transgressor of the law, thy circumcision is become uncircumcision.

If therefore the uncircumcision keep the ordinances of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be reckoned for circumcision?

and shall not the uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who with the letter and circumcision art a transgressor of the law?

For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision which is outward in the flesh:

but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God."

29 posted on 05/20/2014 10:22:00 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: LearsFool

Your failure to understand what Yeshua’s earthly ministry was all about has left you in a daze.

The general purpose of his ministry was to restore the original Torah to his people. Torah is the law of the Kingdom of Yehova until “All things are accomplished.” They were living under a false “Law” created by the pharisees, and that law was what Paul was deriding in Romans 3.

Jeremiah was declaring a time when all of Yehova’s people would live with Torah “written on the fleshly tables of their hearts.”

When you post short portions of a chapter, torn from the context of the chapter, the meaning is destroyed. This is especially true for Paul’s epistles. They didn’t survive the translation from the Hebrew to the Greek in an easy to read condition. The Greek makes no distinction between Yehova’s Torah, and the Pharisee’s Takanot and Ma’asim that is absolutely necessary for understanding what is being said. It also conflates “Jews” with all other Hebrews.

What could possibly be misunderstood about Romans 2:13? It is almost word for word what James also wrote in his epistle. It is the very anchor of every epistle in the New Testament. Without accepting that clear statement, you cannot understand any other epistle.

The “works of the law” has absolutely nothing to do with Torah.


31 posted on 05/20/2014 4:04:31 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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