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To: D-fendr
Now where do you get that?

Well both Peter & Paul were filled with The Holy Spirit and they did have some disagreements in opinions. Such disagreements have always existed. Eventually Peter was corrected by both Paul and The Holy Spirit. Did it mean one or the other was condemned? No. Did it mean either one was out of GOD's favor? No. Peter had a hard time putting behind him the Jewish laws and traditions.

So you don't err and still claim to speak for the Holy Spirit? Are you your own 'church'? Or is it just that you can't be in error because you're not a 'church'? Churches err and you don't? What's your position here?

My position is I'm a sinner dependent upon salvation by Grace through faith that Jesus Christ alone paid the price in full for my sins. Yet I still fail every day as I'm human. So is your Pope and Priest. So are the Preachers in churches I've attended. We all fall short that is why we need a savior. Church leaders can and do err because they are human beings.

I don't speak for The Holy Spirit. But I do try and listen to and obey The Holy Spirit especially in critical decisions so I know what GOD wants me to do.

A church? What is a church? Where two or more gather in Christ name that is a church and He is there also. Now what is a Temple in the sense of the new order Christ established?

1 Corinthians 3:16
Don't you know that you yourselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in your midst?

Or care to explain this?

Romans ch 8 And the Holy Spirit helps us in our weakness. For example, we don't know what God wants us to pray for. But the Holy Spirit prays for us with groanings that cannot be expressed in words.

Romans Chapter 1.

86 posted on 04/21/2014 5:44:28 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: cva66snipe
Your description of the Council of Jerusalem appears to be an attempt to equate it with dueling doctrines of Protestantism all claiming to be the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.

Doesn't work.

Church leaders can and do err because they are human beings.

Here you appear to equate the Bishop of Rome with the Church. False. Likely you are mixing in a gross misunderstanding of the doctrine of infallibility.

I don't speak for The Holy Spirit.

I think that is an inconsistent position. I believe you claim to have the correct doctrine as guided by the Holy Spirit. There may be a distinction here, but little difference.

What is a church? Where two or more gather in Christ name that is a church and He is there also.

The Church; not A church. Here you confuse what the Church is - the Church established by Christ, given authority by Christ through His Apostles, etc. No one person is the Church, no two people are either.

the Holy Spirit helps us in our weakness.

Amen.

90 posted on 04/21/2014 6:14:52 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: cva66snipe
Such disagreements have always existed.

HMMMmmm...

I guess that 'stood condemned' would be some kind of disagreement.

99 posted on 04/21/2014 8:39:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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