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To: D-fendr; metmom; BlueDragon
And the Lord opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times? (Numbers 22:28)

Am I correct in reading this that you don't have a problem with 'someone' declaring things infallible, but only on what basis it is done so?

Not in principal to the first part, the second part determining if there is a problem.

If so, who would be acceptable to you and on what basis? Notice, I assume there must always be a 'who.' I think that is true infallibly. :)

If any atheist tells me that it is sunny day here, and the sun is shining, then i would consider that a a surely true, and thus infallible statement.

Likewise a pagan who affirms their is a Creator. Scripture affirms man can make correct judgments, even about the weather, (LK. 12:54) and affirms the use of reason as arriving at assured truth in the light of evidence. (1Kg. 17:24; Jn. 6:69)

But it nowhere affirms formulaic assured infallibility as per Rome.

Now once again i will ask,

Is your argument that an assuredly infallible magisterium is essential for determination and assurance of Truth? (Or what>)

429 posted on 04/29/2014 3:31:21 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212
Is your argument that an assuredly infallible magisterium is essential for determination and assurance of Truth?

Well, that's the way Christ set it up of course :) But...

Logically, the alternative is A) Some other person on entity. And then you have the problem of whom/what. Or you have B) A bunch of competing "Truth."

So, in practice, sola scriptura does not work. Unless you have another alternative?

431 posted on 04/29/2014 4:56:46 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: daniel1212

I cry....

Mentioned; but not pinged...

Numbers 22:28


435 posted on 04/30/2014 3:26:08 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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