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To: af_vet_1981
He posted that Psalm 69 was a "psalm of Jesus" and Ps 69:8 specifically indicates his mother had other children from whom he was estranged. His problem is that verse 5 would then indicate he was a sinner. The New Testament indicates some of Psalm 69 was prophetically fulfilled by Jesus, but not verses 5 or 8, which were not specifically cited in the NT. We know from Romans 11:9 that David wrote it. I think verses 5, 8 apply to David and not Jesus in the context Iscool proffered.

What does Romans 11:9 have to do with David authoring Psalm 69???

The first part of the Psalm reflects Jesus' child hood...Jesus was certainly a law abiding religious Jew...He however at that time may not have known he was or would be sinless...Jesus was certainly bothered by the intimidation from his siblings...Perhaps he had thoughts that he figured might be sinful...

And for what reason would you deny vs. 8 belongs to Jesus???

196 posted on 04/15/2014 8:07:13 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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To: Iscool
And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them: Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.

The Holy Spirit and Paul identified David as the source of Psalm 69 in Romans 11.

He however at that time may not have known he was or would be sinless...Jesus was certainly bothered by the intimidation from his siblings...Perhaps he had thoughts that he figured might be sinful... And for what reason would you deny vs. 8 belongs to Jesus???

Yes, I attribute the entire Psalm to David, except for the dual fulfillment by Jesus as described in NT scriptures. I believed Jesus was God in the flesh, filled with the Spirit of God always, and never would have thought he sinned. He was never separated from God the Father until his death. Do you believe Jesus was confused about his nature, and if so until what age ?

And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit, filled with wisdom: and the grace of God was upon him. Now his parents went to Jerusalem every year at the feast of the passover. And when he was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem after the custom of the feast. And when they had fulfilled the days, as they returned, the child Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it. But they, supposing him to have been in the company, went a day's journey; and they sought him among their kinsfolk and acquaintance. And when they found him not, they turned back again to Jerusalem, seeking him. And it came to pass, that after three days they found him in the temple, sitting in the midst of the doctors, both hearing them, and asking them questions. And all that heard him were astonished at his understanding and answers. And when they saw him, they were amazed: and his mother said unto him, Son, why hast thou thus dealt with us? behold, thy father and I have sought thee sorrowing. And he said unto them, How is it that ye sought me? wist ye not that I must be about my Father's business? And they understood not the saying which he spake unto them. And he went down with them, and came to Nazareth, and was subject unto them: but his mother kept all these sayings in her heart. And Jesus increased in wisdom and stature, and in favour with God and man.

201 posted on 04/16/2014 7:13:41 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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