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To: LurkingSince'98; Elsie; Alamo-Girl
None of the protestants on the forum have yet to offer up any thing for Jim to judge

Did you not see this one from Alamo-girl?:


To: LurkingSince'98; Gamecock; Alex Murphy; Elsie; daniel1212; metmom; Jim Robinson

Concerning your challenge, I went to one sermon from Pastor Robert Morris, Gateway Church in Dallas and counting 30 verses he explored in his first sermon in the Free Indeed series.

The Scriptures he quoted include John 8:36, Mark 5:1-20; Matt 17:8, Mark 3:14-15, John 10:1, Lamentations 1:10 and 4:12, Luke 10:7-17.

There were 21 verses by my count in today's Daily Mass Readings. The Scriptures were Daniel 3:14020, 91-92, 95 and John 8:31-42.

Of course, the Protestant style is not a straight forward reading of Scriptures as I have experienced in Mass but rather a preaching/study.

Any hoot, that's one for your consideration.

786 posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2014 10:47:59 PM by Alamo-Girl

1,050 posted on 04/10/2014 9:34:09 PM PDT by boatbums (Simul justis et peccator.)
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To: boatbums

Did you not read my replies to her?


1,054 posted on 04/10/2014 10:06:46 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: boatbums; Alamo-Girl

This is your typical run of the mill Catholic Mass - the whole thing, with all the Scripture chapter and verse:

and it doesn’t count the four readings Alamo-Girl mentioned.

Scripture in the order of the mass

Greeting

Priest: In the Name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. (Matt. 28:19)

People: Amen (1 Chr 16:36)

Priest: The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. (2 Cor 13:13)

People: And with your spirit.

Liturgy of the Word

Penitential Rite

All: I confess to almighty God and to you, my brothers and sisters, that I have greatly sinned, (Jas 5:16)
in my thoughts and in my words (Jas 3:6)
in what I have done and in what I have failed to do, (Rom. 12:16)
through my fault, through my fault, through my most grievous fault; therefore I ask blessed Mary ever-Virgin, all the Angels and Saints, and you, my brothers and sisters,
to pray for me to the Lord our God.(1Thess 5:25)

Priest: May almighty God have mercy on us, forgive us our sins, and bring us to everlasting life. (1 John 1:9)

People: Amen (1 Chr 16:36)

All: Lord have mercy. (Tb 8:4) Christ have mercy. (1 Tim 1:2) Lord have mercy.

Gloria

All: Glory to God in the highest, and on earth peace to people of good will. (Luke 2:14)
We praise you, we bless you, we adore you, we glorify you,
we give you thanks for your great glory, (Rev 7:12)
Lord God, heavenly King, O God, almighty Father (Rev 19:6)
Lord Jesus Christ, Only Begotten Son, (2 John 3)Lord God, Lamb of God, Son of the Father,
you take away the sins of the world, have mercy on us; (John 1:29)
you take away the sins of the world, receive our prayer;
you are seated at the right hand of the Father, have mercy on us. (Rom 8:34)
For you alone are the Holy One, (Luke 4:34)
you alone are the Lord, you alone are the Most High, Jesus Christ, (Luke 1:32)
with the Holy Spirit, in the glory of God the Father, Amen (John 14:26)

THIS IS WHERE ALAMO GIRLS READINGS WENT

A Sermon on the readings follows. (2 Tim 4:1-2)

Profession of Faith

All: I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, (Gen 14:19)
of all things visible and invisible. (Col 1:16)
I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only Begotten Son of God, (Luke 1:35)
born of the Father before all ages, God from God, Light from Light, True God from True God, begotten not made, consubstantial with the Father; (Heb 1:3)
through him all things were made. (John 1:2-3)
For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven: (John 3:13)
and by the power of the Holy Spirit he was incarnate of the Virgin Mary, (Matt 1:18)
and became man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, (John 19:16)
he suffered death and was buried, and rose again on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures. (1 Cor 15:3-4)
He ascended into heaven (Luke 24:51)
and is seated at the right hand of the Father. (Col 3:1)
He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead (2 Tim 4:1)
and his kingdom will have no end. (Luke 1:33)
I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of Life, (Acts 2:17)
who proceeds from the Father and the Son, (John 14:16)
who with the Father and Son is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the prophets. (1 Peter 1:10-11)
I believe in one holy, catholic and apostolic Church. (Rom 12:5)
I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins (Acts 2:38)
and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. (Rom 6:5) Amen

Liturgy of the Eucharist

Priest: Blessed are you, Lord, God of all creation. Through your goodness we have this bread to offer, which earth has given and human hands have made. (Eccl. 3:13) It will become for us the bread of life. (John 6:35)

People: Blessed be God forever. (Ps 68:36)

Priest: Blessed are you, Lord, God of all creation. Through your goodness we have this wine to offer, fruit of the vine and work of human hands. It will become our spiritual drink. (Luke 22:17-18)

People: Blessed be God forever. (Ps 68:36)

Priest: Pray, brethren, that our sacrifice may be acceptable to God, the almighty Father. (Heb. 12:28)

People: May the Lord accept the sacrifice at your hands for the praise and glory of his name, for our sake and the good of all his holy Church. (Ps 50:23)

Priest: The Lord be with you.
People: And with your spirit.
Priest: Lift up your hearts.
People: We lift them up to the Lord. (Lam 3:41)
Priest: Let us give thanks to the Lord our God. (Col 3:17)
People: It is right and just. (Col 1:3)

Preface Acclamation

All: Holy, holy, holy Lord, God of hosts. Heaven and earth are full of your glory. (Is 6:3) Hosanna in the highest. Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest. (Mark 11:9-10)
Eucharistic prayer [There are four of these, based on ancient prayers of the Church. Eucharistic Prayer Two follows as an example:]

Priest: You are Holy indeed, O Lord the fount of all holiness. (2 Macc. 14:36) Make holy, therefore, these gifts, we pray, by sending down your Spirit upon them like the dewfall, so that they may become the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ. At the time he was betrayed and entered willingly into his Passion (John 10:17-18) he took bread and, giving thanks, broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying: Take this all of you, and eat of it: For this is my body which will be given up for you. In a similar way, when supper was ended, he took the chalice and, once more giving thanks, he gave the it to his disciples, saying: Take this, all of you, and drink from it: For this is the chalice of my blood, the blood of the new and eternal covenant. Which will be poured out for you and for many for the forgiveness of sins. Do this is memory of me. (Mark 14:22-25) Let us proclaim the mystery of faith.

All: When we eat this Bread and drink this Cup, we proclaim your Death, O Lord, until you come again. (1Cor 11:26)

Priest: Therefore, as we celebrate the memorial of his Death and Resurrection, we offer you, Lord, the Bread of life and the Chalice of salvation, (John 6:51) giving thanks that you have held us worthy to be in your presence and minister to you. Humbly we pray that, partaking of the Body and Blood of Christ, we may be gathered into one by the Holy Spirit. (1 Cor.10:17) Remember, Lord, your Church spread throughout the world; bring her to the fullness of charity, together with our Pope and our bishop, and all the clergy. Remember our brothers and sisters who have fallen asleep and all who have died in your mercy: welcome them into the light of your face. (2 Macc 12:45-46) Have mercy on us all, we pray, that with the blessed Virgin Mary, Mother of God, with the apostles and with all the saints who have pleased you throughout the ages, may we merit to be co-heirs to eternal life, and may praise and glorify you through your Son, Jesus Christ. (2 Thes 1:4-5) Through him, with him, in him, in the unity of the Holy Spirit, all glory and honor is yours, almighty Father, for ever and ever.

All: Amen. (Rom 11:36)

Communion Rite

The Lord’s Prayer:

All: Our Father who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. (Matt 6:9-13)
Priest: Deliver us, Lord, we pray, from every evil, graciously grant peace in our days that by the help of your mercy, we may be always free from sin and safe from all distress, as we await the blessed hope and the coming of our Saviour, Jesus Christ. (John 17:15)
All: For the kingdom the power and the glory are yours, now and forever. Amen

Priest: Lord Jesus Christ, you said to your apostles; I leave you peace, my peace I give to you. (John 14:27) Look not on our sins, but on the faith of your Church, and grant us the peace and unity of your kingdom where you live forever and ever.

Priest: The peace of the Lord be with you always! (John 20:19)

People: And with your spirit!

[The priest then directs the people to exchange a sign, such as a handshake or a kiss, or a word of God’s peace to one another.]

Breaking of the Bread

All: Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world: have mercy on us. Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world: have mercy on us. Lamb of God, you take away the sins of the world, grant us peace. (John 1:29)

Communion

Priest: Behold the Lamb of God, behold him who takes away the sins of the world. Blessed are those who are called to the supper of the Lamb. (Rev. 19:9)

People: Lord, I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof, but only say the word and my soul shall be healed. (Matt 8:8)

[Communion is distributed to the faithful at the altar by the priest and lay ministers.]

Dismissal

Priest: Blessed be the name of the Lord. Now and forever. (Dan 2:20) May almighty God bless you, the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit. (Luke 24:51) Go in peace (Luke 7:50) to love and serve the Lord. (2 Chr 35:3)[During the blessing the people make the Sign of the Cross, the traditional sign of the baptized and a public sign of their belief in the power of God.]

People: Thanks be to God. (2 Cor 9:15)

Now all you have to do is get some protestant minister to just read the bible for an hour and you are home free. But It won;’t change my contention that there is more scripture in a Catholic Mass than in any protestant service.

For the Greater Glory of God


1,056 posted on 04/10/2014 10:22:56 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: boatbums
Did you not see this one from Alamo-girl?:

See WHAT?

"I 'see' no EVIDENCE; just someone babbling on about something!"

The above is ELSIE's predicted response...

1,090 posted on 04/11/2014 4:46:56 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums; LurkingSince'98; daniel1212; BlueDragon
Thank you for remembering my previous post, dear sister in Christ!

I miscounted though. He actually quoted Scripture 37 times - and on the day of the sermon 9/25/13, the Daily Mass Reading was 11 verses.

But as the conversion continued it became obvious that LS'98 wanted to count every phrase in a Catholic Mass that has roots in Scripture - though the Scripture references are not given as part of the liturgy.

Truly, I thought the contest was between actual Scripture quotes during Mass versus during a Protestant Service.

I did not count the number of times the pastor used a familiar Scriptural phrase without citing the passage, nor did I count the "amens" or similar references in the prayers, hymns and such that were involved in that service. And it is not on-line.

Such services can go for hours, and the number of "amens" alone would be huge - but LS'98 would not relent. And so to meet the challenge to make some dough for Free Republic, one would have to record an entire Service, transcribe it, parse it and then tally it up.

Surely, a Gateway-like service would have a very, very high count but I have neither the time nor resources to do it.

1,141 posted on 04/11/2014 7:43:10 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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